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Old 05-12-2008, 06:57 PM
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I know youve been saying they are place where they can win and that is true I notice they are not afraid to claim for 10-15000 and run for 5000 but are they also jumping way up in there figs off the claim. thats when you wonder. we all know the guys who claim a horse running a 40-50 beyer then all of a sudden 80s or 90s. has that been happening too in this streak?
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Old 05-12-2008, 07:00 PM
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I know youve been saying they are place where they can win and that is true I notice they are not afraid to claim for 10-15000 and run for 5000 but are they also jumping way up in there figs off the claim. thats when you wonder. we all know the guys who claim a horse running a 40-50 beyer then all of a sudden 80s or 90s. has that been happening too in this streak?
I'm going to guess no. I don't know how the races have been coming back, but the vast (and I'm talking probably 8 to 10) majority of his 12 wins have come with horses who were much the best on paper, from a class and figs perspective, and who had previous form and figs more than good enough to beat the average field that shows up for that level. Most of them just needed to run to their regular race (ie, no big jump up needed) to be good enough to win. That's why I think it's brash to jump to conclusions based on his percentage early in the meet when there are so many intangibles that are very well factoring into it.

There are so many things to track about this topic, figs the horses run first time for Cat, figs they run first time away from him factoring in any change in class, etc. It will be interesting to see how the next six weeks play out, for sure.
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Old 05-12-2008, 07:03 PM
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one other thing that may come in handy no matter who the trainers are, havent some of these horse been coming up straight from races at tampa bay downs and dont these type usually run very well over the course?
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Old 05-18-2008, 06:20 AM
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And then there's this Simon guy, Chuck Simon who's doing even better. He's hitting at 100%. I think he's the one that started it and must have taught C all his secrets. Taking 20,000 claimers and winning way over their head.

Why just yesterday he had a horse some 15 lengths back with no shot come out of the clouds. Unreal. Someone ought to check that guy out for sure. I think he uses something very few do....damn good horse training!

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Old 05-18-2008, 12:31 PM
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No takers on my comments?
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What were you looking for people to say?
He can't count to 17?
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Old 05-24-2008, 11:52 AM
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now you have to add the slomkowski-calabrese combo
seems like calabrese, catalano, slomkowski won all the races yesterday
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