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Old 05-10-2008, 09:21 PM
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Maybe you have horses for courses. I don't.
Horses for courses is an overused cliche but it's true with certain horses.
Silver Train nearly broke the track record for six and a half the first time he ran at Belmont on July 2,2005. He followed that up with winning the BC Sprint and Met Mile the following year.
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:33 PM
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Horses for courses is an overused cliche but it's true with certain horses.
Silver Train nearly broke the track record for six and a half the first time he ran at Belmont on July 2,2005. He followed that up with winning the BC Sprint and Met Mile the following year.

Silver Train was more a horse for the barn.....Dutrow's barn.

He was nothing before the trainer change.
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:54 PM
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Silver Train was more a horse for the barn.....Dutrow's barn.

He was nothing before the trainer change.
That's true but he did run his best races on Belmont Park's main track.

I agree that Silver Train improved ten fold once he entered the Dutrow Jr. barn. We all know about Dutrows rep, the suspensions , etc. I just realized that July 2, 2005 race took place when Dutrow was on suspension. That was also the day when Offlee Wild won his Grade 1 race with Juan Rodriguez as the listed trainer.

How do you think Dutrow Jr does it? He improves the lowest of quality horses just as he does with top class horses. The detention barn is in place and his numbers are basically the same. He's won BC races. If he is as dirty as people say why doesn't he get caught with major raceday drug violations?
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:59 PM
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They can't detect everything. . .
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Old 05-10-2008, 10:02 PM
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They can't detect everything. . .
Is he that more clever than everyone?

I know people root against him and that's fine. I just think it's foolish if one allows their distain towards Dutrow Jr. influence their handicapping and wagering on races which he has horses entered.
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Old 05-10-2008, 10:06 PM
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Is he that more clever than everyone?
You think he's the only one with mysterious move-ups, etc?
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Old 05-10-2008, 10:11 PM
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anabolic steroids are legal & considered to be a beneficial run-of-the-mill medication.

a little research shows painkillers are very popular

then we have chemicals that build your stamina like epo

and stuff we don't even know about.

if the barn and the investors have no moral objection, some of these outfits use everything possible
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Old 05-10-2008, 10:12 PM
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You think he's the only one with mysterious move-ups, etc?
Of course not, I'm not that naive. I'm not saying he's doping his horses. It's rare to see a trainer equally adept at handling 10,000 claimers and horses who win Grade 1 races. He's not the first with this skill and he won't be the last.
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Old 05-10-2008, 10:00 PM
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That's true but he did run his best races on Belmont Park's main track.

I agree that Silver Train improved ten fold once he entered the Dutrow Jr. barn. We all know about Dutrows rep, the suspensions , etc. I just realized that July 2, 2005 race took place when Dutrow was on suspension. That was also the day when Offlee Wild won his Grade 1 race with Juan Rodriguez as the listed trainer.

How do you think Dutrow Jr does it? He improves the lowest of quality horses just as he does with top class horses. The detention barn is in place and his numbers are basically the same. He's won BC races. If he is as dirty as people say why doesn't he get caught with major raceday drug violations?
Scuds knows but he wont tell me.
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