Curlin pointing to Arc??

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

i refuse to believe that the Arc or Japan Cup are seriously being considered.

I'm not so sure. I believe Assmussen would be set against running on a synthetic track for the BC Classic. If Curlin is still running in the fall, and that's a big IF, I could see them taking a shot at one of those other races.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

I'm not so sure. I believe Assmussen would be set against running on a synthetic track for the BC Classic. If Curlin is still running in the fall, and that's a big IF, I could see them taking a shot at one of those other races.

he'd stand a MUCH better chance at Santa Anita than he would in those other races, in which he would have no shot imo.

[zippyneedsawin]

I'd give him a pretty good shot in the Japan Dirt Cup, but the Arc is a bit of a reach. That said, I wouldn't be against it if they took a shot at the latter race. (not that my opinion counts!)

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

I'd give him a pretty good shot in the Japan Dirt Cup, but the Arc is a bit of a reach. That said, I wouldn't be against it if they took a shot at the latter race. (not that my opinion counts!)

okay, but is it the Japan Dirt Cup or the Japan Cup which is on grass? the quote says the Arc and Japan Cup so I assumed it was the grass race.

if they mean the Japan Dirt Cup, yeah he would have a chance there especially this year because they are running it at Hanshin at 9F. but it would not be easy to ship in there and win.

scav, why would he not have a shot in the arc? off the top of my head lets start with no grass experience facing the best grass horses in the premier grass race in the world, couple that with running at 12f on a tricky undulating course that he has no experience on, add to that his running style seems suited for dirt, he doesn't cruise along and explode, he's more of a steady grinder, he is a large barrel chested horse which I don't believe fits the mold of your proto-typical Arc winner.

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

scav, why would he not have a shot in the arc? off the top of my head lets start with no grass experience facing the best grass horses in the premier grass race in the world, couple that with running at 12f on a tricky undulating course that he has no experience on, add to that his running style seems suited for dirt, he doesn't cruise along and explode, he's more of a steady grinder, he is a large barrel chested horse which I don't believe fits the mold of your proto-typical Arc winner.

Agreed.

Also, it would be his first time racing right-handed, and the first time he's ever had to race on a course with undulations. Massive ask, I would be hugely impressed if he handled it.

[saratogabrit]

They do have the advantage over virtually all other American outfits-save the likes of Biancone and Clement-that they have someone on their team who knows Longchamp and the training facilities at Chantilly inside out.

If he goes for the Arc-they will have to decide whether they run in the Woodward leave the US and train up to the race or leave towards the end of August and run in the Prix Foy at Longchamp 3 weeks before the Arc.

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I think the Prix Foy would be a much better idea.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

he'd stand a MUCH better chance at Santa Anita than he would in those other races, in which he would have no shot imo.

why would he have 'no shot' in the Arc, my guess is that he would have a prep here(Maybe the Arlington Million??) and he is bred to love the lawn and he is a good horse.

When is the ARC anyways?

[Travis Stone]

I'm still trying to figure out why he would have 'no shot' in the Japan Cup for example. He did win the Dubai World Cup... which was the best the world had to offer?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I'm still trying to figure out why he would have 'no shot' in the Japan Cup for example. He did win the Dubai World Cup... which was the best the world had to offer?

Personally, I feel the Japan cup is nothing, but winning the Arc makes this horse a legend.

What does winning the Japan Cup do for him?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Scav

Personally, I feel the Japan cup is nothing, but winning the Arc makes this horse a legend.

What does winning the Japan Cup do for him?

You don't even know when the fricken race is so how do you know it makes a horse a legend.. What's legendary is your opinion! Do you even know where it is run or any of the past Legendary Champions?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by freddymo

You don't even know when the fricken race is so how do you know it makes a horse a legend.. What's legendary is your opinion! Do you even know where it is run or any of the past Legendary Champions?

Hey numnuts, I know that the Arc is a very big race, god forbid I didn't know when the race was exactly placed.

And you don't think an american horse that has won the BC Classic, and then goes and wins the Arc wouldn't be considered legendary?

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by freddymo

You don't even know when the fricken race is so how do you know it makes a horse a legend.. What's legendary is your opinion! Do you even know where it is run or any of the past Legendary Champions?

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[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Scav

Personally, I feel the Japan cup is nothing, but winning the Arc makes this horse a legend.

What does winning the Japan Cup do for him?

Makes him very attractive to Japanese breeders which is where there is a strong possibility where he will land at stud

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I'm still trying to figure out why he would have 'no shot' in the Japan Cup for example. He did win the Dubai World Cup... which was the best the world had to offer?

if that field was the best the world had to offer, this sport truly is on its last legs.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Scav

When is the ARC anyways?

Jesus, dude, learn something about the game.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Jesus, dude, learn something about the game.

I am not versed in stuff over the pond, I use Brockguy as my source of information. When is it

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Scav

I am not versed in stuff over the pond, I use Brockguy as my source of information. When is it

Actually, I know it is in September or first week of October becuase they always talk about the Arc winner coming for BC, right?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Scav

Actually, I know it is in September or first week of October becuase they always talk about the Arc winner coming for BC, right?

It's probably the biggest race in the world...as well as the biggest day of racing in Europe.


Here's an idea.....google French Gallop. Think of this as a learning opportunity.