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Old 05-07-2008, 07:47 AM
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i refuse to believe that the Arc or Japan Cup are seriously being considered.
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:55 AM
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It wouldn't be awesome though wouldn't it.....The ARC, I would probably find a way to get there if he did that.
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:33 PM
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It wouldn't be awesome though wouldn't it.....The ARC, I would probably find a way to get there if he did that.
Paris would never be the same
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He'd never find Longchamp. He would be 1 to 5 to find Pigalle.
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Scav, were you one of the two 300-pounders taking the Woodford Reserve tour on Sunday afternoon clothed fully in nothing but Chicago Bears paraphanelia?
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:57 AM
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i refuse to believe that the Arc or Japan Cup are seriously being considered.
I'm not so sure. I believe Assmussen would be set against running on a synthetic track for the BC Classic. If Curlin is still running in the fall, and that's a big IF, I could see them taking a shot at one of those other races.
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Old 05-07-2008, 08:02 AM
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I'm not so sure. I believe Assmussen would be set against running on a synthetic track for the BC Classic. If Curlin is still running in the fall, and that's a big IF, I could see them taking a shot at one of those other races.
he'd stand a MUCH better chance at Santa Anita than he would in those other races, in which he would have no shot imo.
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Old 05-07-2008, 08:22 AM
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I'd give him a pretty good shot in the Japan Dirt Cup, but the Arc is a bit of a reach. That said, I wouldn't be against it if they took a shot at the latter race. (not that my opinion counts!)
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:12 AM
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I'd give him a pretty good shot in the Japan Dirt Cup, but the Arc is a bit of a reach. That said, I wouldn't be against it if they took a shot at the latter race. (not that my opinion counts!)
okay, but is it the Japan Dirt Cup or the Japan Cup which is on grass? the quote says the Arc and Japan Cup so I assumed it was the grass race.

if they mean the Japan Dirt Cup, yeah he would have a chance there especially this year because they are running it at Hanshin at 9F. but it would not be easy to ship in there and win.

scav, why would he not have a shot in the arc? off the top of my head lets start with no grass experience facing the best grass horses in the premier grass race in the world, couple that with running at 12f on a tricky undulating course that he has no experience on, add to that his running style seems suited for dirt, he doesn't cruise along and explode, he's more of a steady grinder, he is a large barrel chested horse which I don't believe fits the mold of your proto-typical Arc winner.
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:58 PM
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scav, why would he not have a shot in the arc? off the top of my head lets start with no grass experience facing the best grass horses in the premier grass race in the world, couple that with running at 12f on a tricky undulating course that he has no experience on, add to that his running style seems suited for dirt, he doesn't cruise along and explode, he's more of a steady grinder, he is a large barrel chested horse which I don't believe fits the mold of your proto-typical Arc winner.
Agreed.

Also, it would be his first time racing right-handed, and the first time he's ever had to race on a course with undulations. Massive ask, I would be hugely impressed if he handled it.
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Old 05-08-2008, 09:54 AM
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They do have the advantage over virtually all other American outfits-save the likes of Biancone and Clement-that they have someone on their team who knows Longchamp and the training facilities at Chantilly inside out.

If he goes for the Arc-they will have to decide whether they run in the Woodward leave the US and train up to the race or leave towards the end of August and run in the Prix Foy at Longchamp 3 weeks before the Arc.
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Old 05-07-2008, 08:46 AM
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he'd stand a MUCH better chance at Santa Anita than he would in those other races, in which he would have no shot imo.
why would he have 'no shot' in the Arc, my guess is that he would have a prep here(Maybe the Arlington Million??) and he is bred to love the lawn and he is a good horse.

When is the ARC anyways?
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I'm still trying to figure out why he would have 'no shot' in the Japan Cup for example. He did win the Dubai World Cup... which was the best the world had to offer?
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Old 05-07-2008, 08:56 AM
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I'm still trying to figure out why he would have 'no shot' in the Japan Cup for example. He did win the Dubai World Cup... which was the best the world had to offer?
Personally, I feel the Japan cup is nothing, but winning the Arc makes this horse a legend.

What does winning the Japan Cup do for him?
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:34 AM
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Personally, I feel the Japan cup is nothing, but winning the Arc makes this horse a legend.

What does winning the Japan Cup do for him?
You don't even know when the fricken race is so how do you know it makes a horse a legend.. What's legendary is your opinion! Do you even know where it is run or any of the past Legendary Champions?
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:46 PM
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Personally, I feel the Japan cup is nothing, but winning the Arc makes this horse a legend.

What does winning the Japan Cup do for him?
Makes him very attractive to Japanese breeders which is where there is a strong possibility where he will land at stud
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Old 05-07-2008, 06:47 PM
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I'm still trying to figure out why he would have 'no shot' in the Japan Cup for example. He did win the Dubai World Cup... which was the best the world had to offer?
if that field was the best the world had to offer, this sport truly is on its last legs.
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Old 05-07-2008, 08:55 AM
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When is the ARC anyways?
Jesus, dude, learn something about the game.
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Old 05-07-2008, 08:57 AM
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I am not versed in stuff over the pond, I use Brockguy as my source of information. When is it
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Old 05-07-2008, 08:58 AM
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I am not versed in stuff over the pond, I use Brockguy as my source of information. When is it
Actually, I know it is in September or first week of October becuase they always talk about the Arc winner coming for BC, right?
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