Big Brown Beyer 109

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Street Sense is not nor will ever be as talented as Big Brown. I loved Street Sense the race horse. He was trained to perfection by a master. He evolved traditionally and was simply a classy colt. He could not win this years FD from post 12 in his third start even against these rats. And he wouldn't have won this years derby in his 4th start from post 20.. Steve let's face it Big Brown really has been rushed and has handled extreme adversity.. Do I think he is the greatest colt ever no but Seattle Slew wasn't Seattle Slew till he was Seattle Slew. Lets wait and see.

That's exactly my biggest problem with it all. He could run two more races against nothing and retire completely unproven. Slew didn't fully prove himself until he was four which this horse will never get the chance to.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

That's exactly my biggest problem with it all. He could run two more races against nothing and retire completely unproven. Slew didn't fully prove himself until he was four which this horse will never get the chance to.

its hard they simply don't race horse that much anymore..Maybe IEAH won't hit the bid lol? I wonder if Claiborne will buy him it would be a welcomed change on the connection side.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by freddymo

its hard they simply don't race horse that much anymore..Maybe IEAH won't hit the bid lol? I wonder if Claiborne will buy him it would be a welcomed change on the connection side.

Yeah, I know. Which I guess is why I want the next Triple Crown winner to come from a strong crop so that even if he's retired after the Belmont he'll have proven himself and will be able to further prove himself if the horses he beat go on to do big things. In this case it seems doubtful that the horses he beat in the Derby will go on to win much of anything on the dirt.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by freddymo

its hard they simply don't race horse that much anymore..Maybe IEAH won't hit the bid lol? I wonder if Claiborne will buy him it would be a welcomed change on the connection side.

I'd really like it if they do. I thought I understood that they'd pensioned Boundary. If so I'd bet they'd be more tenacious about getting him then perhaps they've been with other colts in the recent past. Let's face it, Darley's been snagging the big cheeses as of late, and Jackson's got his mitts on Curlin for the most part. Could do worse than replacing Boundary with such a nice looking, Derby-winning son. Say what you want about his breeding, he's got charisma out the whazoo.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

That's exactly my biggest problem with it all. He could run two more races against nothing and retire completely unproven. Slew didn't fully prove himself until he was four which this horse will never get the chance to.

I dunno. I think it's a great thing that he's by Boundary, because I doubt there's any serious clamor to breed to him at this point. If he wins the Crown, definitely the breeders will come calling, but even if he just wins the Derby and Preakness, I still think he'll need to do more. Though nothing would surprise me at this point with all of the early retirements I've seen.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I dunno. I think it's a great thing that he's by Boundary, because I doubt there's any serious clamor to breed to him at this point. If he wins the Crown, definitely the breeders will come calling, but even if he just wins the Derby and Preakness, I still think he'll need to do more. Though nothing would surprise me at this point with all of the early retirements I've seen.

yeah, boundary isn't exactly a home run hitter, til now...and he's pensioned. hard to tell what kind of sire he could have been, since he didn't get much time to produce a lot of foals. early fertility issues.