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Mr. HorseOffCourse,sir.




You may be interested to know a Plain Dealer writers brief blurb about last nights 9th inning....saying how the implosion featured,among other things, Here'sJhonny waving at more ground balls than a flagman at cars on I-90.

HJ also got his ass sat down tonight.





This from your "at worst an average defensive ss."







Thank you ,Your Doorknobship.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman

Mr. HorseOffCourse,sir.




You may be interested to know a Plain Dealer writers brief blurb about last nights 9th inning....saying how the implosion featured,among other things, Here'sJhonny waving at more ground balls than a flagman at cars on I-90.

HJ also got his ass sat down tonight.





This from your "at worst an average defensive ss."







Thank you ,Your Doorknobship.

I'm not exactly sure how Jhonny is supposed to make plays on shots by Beltre into the right field seats...but ok, I guess he should get those. But as alwyas, if it's a loss, it's Peralta somehow, someway. Wedge has benched both Cabrera and Peralta at various points this year multiple games. It's meaningless.

If you dont' like analysis, you have no need to read anything I write regarding Cleveland sports. I offer no bombast. I'm sorry. I am not you. Therefore, I offer my opinions, not yours. I again do not see problem with that. I can't understand why you get so upset with what I analyze. I am wrong often, but differeing views are what they are.

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Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman

Mr. HorseOffCourse,sir.

You may be interested to know a Plain Dealer writers brief blurb about last nights 9th inning....saying how the implosion featured,among other things, Here'sJhonny waving at more ground balls than a flagman at cars on I-90.

Yet, somehow I read the play by play for the 9th inning and it goes something like...Suzuki singled to 2nd, Lopez singled to RIGHT, Beltre homered to right.

Now if Peralta's range is now expected to get to balls hit to the second baseman and to the right fielder and into the right field seats...you have much higher opinions of Peralta than I do. Much, much higher by far. Now if somehow the implosion was considered 40 minutes later after the Mariners have already broken the tie, your opinions of when games are decided also differs greatly from mine.

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You may be interested to know a Plain Dealer writers brief blurb about last nights 9th inning....saying how the implosion featured,among other things, Here'sJhonny waving at more ground balls than a flagman at cars on I-90.

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Poor fielding is poor fielding no matter when it may happen.




And I am among legion who believe him to be a poor fielder.

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Ah wonder if sitting his ass down last night was a way of rewarding him for fielding excellence?

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Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman

Ah wonder if sitting his ass down last night was a way of rewarding him for fielding excellence?

Cabrera has sat down plenty of games this year as well...as I mentioned. That is what Wedge does this year. Garko finally sat two nights ago...Hafner sat last night. In Cabrera's case I would guess it has more to do with him hitting under his weight thus far as opposed to defense...Garko and Hafner as well. No one is really playing well this year batting other than Martinez and Sizemore. I think the sittings have been distributed amongst everyone. I would think you would know that following the team and all...but I guess not.

But again facts don't really matter when you have bombast. I'm guessing despite the Peralta benching last night, Carroll won't be a full time player this year. He is giving both Peralta AND Cabrera nights off now and then when they are struggling as both Peralta AND CAbrera have been doing this year offensively as has the rest of the team minus Martinez and Sizemore.

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It just so happens Here'sJhonny sat after expressing parting is such sweet sorrow to ground balls.


But of course..that's just a coincidence.

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Funny thing about the game Tuesday...Peralta was much worse with the stick than the glove...he came up with a truckload of men on base with one and two outs and nary a clutch hit with DPs etc...he got not one man in. His bat was a much bigger factor in the loss than his glove. I would think following the team and all you would be able to figure these things out. My guess is his sitting last night had much more to do with that than his defense as run scoring has been a much bigger issue this year than defense on the team.

Peralta is not a great player and never was and never will be. He certainly is far from the lone INdian struggling this year on offense however.