Derby Post Position Selection Order

[Antitrust32]

Is the draw on ESPN today? if so what time??

[slotdirt]

I disagree that 15 is still going to be out there when Bob Black Jack comes around with the 13th pick. IIRC, didn't someone, I'm thinking Bandini/Pletcher, pick 15 because it's the last post in the main gate? I feel like 15 is actually usually one of the first five or six picks in the PP draw.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

I disagree that 15 is still going to be out there when Bob Black Jack comes around with the 13th pick. IIRC, didn't someone, I'm thinking Bandini/Pletcher, pick 15 because it's the last post in the main gate? I feel like 15 is actually usually one of the first five or six picks in the PP draw.

Smarty Jones/John Servis picked the 15 post because it's the first post in the auxiliary gate, so you get a little less bumping at the start. Think they had about the 13th pick or so that year, so not a great position but it was definitely an ingenious selection- which you are correct, was duplicated by Pletcher/Bandini the following year and Pletcher mentioned that in his choice.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Is the draw on ESPN today? if so what time??

Supposed to be at 5 p.m., but I'm not totally sure. I don't see anything about it when I push the "Guide" button, and the PTI guys said they'd be on today..

[Scav]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Supposed to be at 5 p.m., but I'm not totally sure. I don't see anything about it when I push the "Guide" button, and the PTI guys said they'd be on today..

ESPN2 at 4pm CST, so 5pm your time

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Scav

ESPN2 at 4pm CST, so 5pm your time

Thanks. Derby site says ESPN, hence the confusion.

[mik9872]

It should be drawn just like all other races.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by mik9872

It should be drawn just like all other races.

i agree.

[cakes44]

Toss Gayego if you want, but as long as he gets the 20 hole, he should be sitting 4th or 5th going into the 1st turn. There aren't a bunch of true speed horses in there. The only problem is Mike Smith could find a way to have him in 5th and 5 wide at the same time.

[NoLuvForPletch]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Toss Gayego if you want, but as long as he gets the 20 hole, he should be sitting 4th or 5th going into the 1st turn. There aren't a bunch of true speed horses in there. The only problem is Mike Smith could find a way to have him in 5th and 5 wide at the same time.

I'm guessing rail with the last pick. And Mike Smith could still have him 5 wide going into the 1st turn.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Toss Gayego if you want, but as long as he gets the 20 hole, he'll should be sitting 4th or 5th going into the 1st turn. There aren't a bunch of true speed horses in there. The only problem is Mike Smith could find a way to have him in 5th and 5 wide at the same time.

he won't have to find a way to be wide, he will be wide from out there for sure no matter what Smith does.