DERBY WORKS (4/27): Col. John (:57.4), Fillies (:58+) in Hot Drills

[blackthroatedwind]

I don't get what was good about his Arkansas Derby, but maybe I'm making the mistake of thinking it will take a good horse to be competitive in this year's Derby, as there appears to ultimately be a dearth of those.

To me, he benefited from a fast pace, had a good trip ( I don't particularly get worked up about wides ), and couldn't get by a distance challenged mediocrity who was involved in a solid pace. I guess I should wait for the pps on Wednesday but I hope there are better alternatives than him. I haven't liked a race he has run save perhaps his maiden win.

[philcski]

I don't think the pace was all that swift, merely average. I don't know Oaklawn well enough to project pace from one distance to another, but the Northern Spur went 1:11 3/5 to the 6F at a mile, so not much slower and those beasts were MUCH worse than the Ark Derby. If it was, perhaps you should credit Gayego more than it sounds like you want to- he did come home in a solid 12.7 seconds after that. That one looks more concerning at 10F, though.

The sad truth is there isn't much to look at beyond Big Brown, Colonel John, and Pyro.

[alysheba4]

man, i just hope most people try to outthink the obvious...... big brown should be 1-5.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by alysheba4

man, i just hope most people try to outthink the obvious...... big brown should be 1-5.

He hits the board I am smoked for the whole day.....

[alysheba4]

hey, its just 1 race.......there will be about 25 more to get it back

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Scav

He hits the board I am smoked for the whole day.....

How bout you listen to your uncle Phil, who says forget trying to beat him in every wager and take what's available?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by philcski

How bout you listen to your uncle Phil, who says forget trying to beat him in every wager and take what's available?

Uncle?? we are like the same age I thought.

BIG BROWN GOES DOWN!!

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Scav

Uncle?? we are like the same age I thought.

BIG BROWN GOES DOWN!!

LOL, true... how bout sober friend then!

Originally Posted by Scav

there is a Scores in Louisville?

Nothing Butt Fun

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Scav

He hits the board I am smoked for the whole day.....

SCAV I am with you..if he does I'll be heading over to SCORES - but the lap dances will be few....and the tips in coinage.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by geeker2

SCAV I am with you..if he does I'll be heading over to SCORES - but the lap dances will be few....and the tips in coinage.

there is a Scores in Louisville?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by alysheba4

man, i just hope most people try to outthink the obvious...... big brown should be 1-5.

Let's hope you're kidding.

Excuse me for missing the obvious....it's Derbytime and people are prone to make even the most inane comments seriously.

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Let's hope you're kidding.

Excuse me for missing the obvious....it's Derbytime and people are prone to make even the most inane comments seriously.

...... no, are you telling me when you cap this race he isnt a standout?? come on.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by alysheba4

...... no, are you telling me when you cap this race he isnt a standout?? come on.

My negatives for Big Brown
- Beat what?
- Bred to stop at 8f
- running style

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by Scav

My negatives for Big Brown
- Beat what?
- Bred to stop at 8f
- running style

Add, never had to look a horse that isn't going to quit in the eye. (Maybe Big Brown wont slow down long enough for them to look him in the eye.)

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by alysheba4

...... no, are you telling me when you cap this race he isnt a standout?? come on.

You said he should be 1:5.

As far as handicapping this race.....they draw in about 52 hours. I have, however, handicapped the first two days at Belmont. I've found 12 better races to bet than this year's Derby.

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You said he should be 1:5.

As far as handicapping this race.....they draw in about 52 hours. I have, however, handicapped the first two days at Belmont. I've found 12 better races to bet than this year's Derby.

....i agree

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

As far as handicapping this race.....they draw in about 52 hours. I have, however, handicapped the first two days at Belmont. I've found 12 better races to bet than this year's Derby.

You found 12 races in the first two days at Belmont that are better races to bet than a race with an 8/1 shot that is a near cinch to run in the exacta, while in a race that has about 15 throwouts in it!?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cardus

How do the MTOs look for Wednesday?

It seems to have stopped raining. I will remain optimistic......it's hard not to for the best day of the year in NYC.

Don't forget, we haven't had any rain for weeks really. We could use some.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Cardus

How do the MTOs look for Wednesday?

What MTO's? They'll be scratched when it's fast and firm

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by alysheba4

...... no, are you telling me when you cap this race he isnt a standout?? come on.

he is for the suckers out there . you know the bandwagon folks that believe the hype . big brown will turn out to be the horse version of the patriots. didn't i make money that day too ?? lol ! what has he done ? 1-5 in a derby and you claim to have bet on 24 in a row. how many of those won ? and nows theres a guy with a big brown handle on here. is it the same guy that had discreet cat=monster, i must come on here for the chuckle i get reading this crap !