Note to Garret Gomez

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by oracle80

He may have held 2nd but he definitely would have held 3rd. He needs to be fined for that ride, he really does.

What are you smoking? He rode the horse all the way to the wire. He didn't stop riding the horse until he was 4th and that happened about one foot from the wire.

[ArlJim78]

he was inhaled nearing the wire by a couple horses after running the race fairly close to some swift fractions, he made his move on the turn and tried to steal it but fell short. he got all he could have out of that horse and I think faulting the ride is a little nutty.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

he was inhaled nearing the wire by a couple horses after running the race fairly close to some swift fractions, he made his move on the turn and tried to steal it but fell short. he got all he could have out of that horse and I think faulting the ride is a little nutty.

not the first, nor last time I will be called nutty.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by GPK

not the first, nor last time I will be called nutty.

i wasn't calling you nutty gpk.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

i wasn't calling you nutty gpk.

well...why not???

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by GPK

well...why not???

oh i don't know.... something about the pot and the kettle I would say.

My opinion on the guy hasn't changed one bit and its not like I want to have that opinion about him. I'd much rather he just put some polish on his already immense physical skills with some mental work on what the prevailing bias is and knowledge of his own horses' tendencies as well as the others in the race.
Yeah Edgar isnt strong as a bull but he always knows where he is supposed to be with a horse. Johnny is the same way. They also keep tabs on their main opponents in the race and where they are (kinda like The Breeders Cup Sprint when Gomez went for that hole and Prado said where do you think you are going jagoff?). Its splitting hairs when you start talking about things this detailed but in order for him to join Johhny and Edgar as the absolute best he simply has to learn that he does not have a liscense to get the rail move every time and that sometimes you need to send a horse and get an advantage if thats how the race shapes up instead of just grabbing and riding like he prefers to ride.

[Crown@club]

To me he's been Jeckell and Hyde. Lately a lot of Jeckelling out there.

I know but the guy can really drive you to drink. One race he looks so great you are in awe, the next hes boxed inside on a dead rail and you wanna tear your DRF into a thousand pieces of confetti.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

he was inhaled nearing the wire by a couple horses after running the race fairly close to some swift fractions, he made his move on the turn and tried to steal it but fell short. he got all he could have out of that horse and I think faulting the ride is a little nutty.

ArlJim it sounds like you actually looked at the race. Whereas Scuds just sees it as another chance to explain why the leading money-winning rider in the country "obviously" has no brains. Gomez must be the luckiest guy in the world, according to Scuds and oracle. No other way to explain an idiot leading the other 500 riders.

--Dunbar

Rup he would have held 3rd. Its not a major big deal to the connections, but it is to anyone who keyed supers or tris.
My position on Gomez has always been the same, and continues to be now. Incredibly strong and agile and incredibly stupid on a horse very often. Does not "handicap" the rest of the fields he rides agaisnt and is pathetically unaware and out of sync with prevailing biases much of the time.
Rupert you keep knocking Prados strength down the lane and seem amazed that he is a leading rider. Strength and talent alone won't win races, you need a brain.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Rup he would have held 3rd. Its not a major big deal to the connections, but it is to anyone who keyed supers or tris.
My position on Gomez has always been the same, and continues to be now. Incredibly strong and agile and incredibly stupid on a horse very often. Does not "handicap" the rest of the fields he rides agaisnt and is pathetically unaware and out of sync with prevailing biases much of the time.
Rupert you keep knocking Prados strength down the lane and seem amazed that he is a leading rider. Strength and talent alone won't win races, you need a brain.

I don't think Prado is nearly as atheltic as many of the other top riders but he's obviously a good rider. He also seems to be pretty cool under presssure in the big races and that is obviously very important.

Where do you rank Gomez overall back East. It sounds like you would take JV or Prado over him. Do you think that Gomez is the 3rd best rider back there overall?

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I don't think Prado is nearly as atheltic as many of the other top riders but he's obviously a good rider. He also seems to be pretty cool under presssure in the big races and that is obviously very important.

Where do you rank Gomez overall back East. It sounds like you would take JV or Prado over him. Do you think that Gomez is the 3rd best rider back there overall?

I simply don't put him in Johnny or Edgar's class. I think those two have their own league. I put him a group with Castellano and Coa and Bejarano as the next tier.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

"leading money-winning rider in the country "




This seems to be the get out of jail card for every bad decision the guy ever makes.Like I said,he gave these 3 chalks(Kewen,Sigfreto,and TM Bling)totally f'd up rides,because he keeps horses in an awful position,and the other guys keep him in the trouble that he gets into (with his own poor decision-making.)What were these 3 horses...7/5,3/5,and 6/5.He is a good play on the medium to high priced horses.Anything he rides with odds that have a 5 in the bottom of the fraction(5 as denominator,)I don't want.Keep that sht.If I like the horse,I'll skip the race.I haven't mentioned him f'n up anything since TM BLING.That's cuz I haven't played him since then.Problem solved.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

"leading money-winning rider in the country "




This seems to be the get out of jail card for every bad decision the guy ever makes.Like I said,he gave these 3 chalks(Kewen,Sigfreto,and TM Bling)totally f'd up rides,because he keeps horses in an awful position,and the other guys keep him in the trouble that he gets into (with his own poor decision-making.)What were these 3 horses...7/5,3/5,and 6/5.He is a good play on the medium to high priced horses.Anything he rides with odds that have a 5 in the bottom of the fraction(5 as denominator,)I don't want.Keep that sht.If I like the horse,I'll skip the race.I haven't mentioned him f'n up anything since TM BLING.That's cuz I haven't played him since then.Problem solved.

Every rider out there has blown a ton of races. The good riders simply blow less rides than the other jocks. Victor Espinoza is a great rider. I've seen him give a few really bad rides this year that cost his horses races. That doesn't mean he's not a great rider. He's given some really bad rides but he's still in the top 5 best riders in the country. He'll give some bad rides once in a while, but he gives less bad rides than 99% of the other guys.

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Every rider out there has blown a ton of races. The good riders simply blow less rides than the other jocks. Victor Espinoza is a great rider. I've seen him give a few really bad rides this year that cost his horses races. That doesn't mean he's not a great rider. He's given some really bad rides but he's still in the top 5 best riders in the country. He'll give some bad rides once in a while, but he gives less bad rides than 99% of the other guys.

Rupert I think that he truly stands out as one of the most talented riders I ever saw who simply gives worse than bad rides on occasion. he gives simply astonishing bad rides on occasion. real head scratchers where you just can't figure out what was going through his mind.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

People say he isn't dumb,but he mainly makes the same exact mistake(bad spot..stays there..other jocks lock him down tight....guys who played him get their balls in a f'n glass jar.)See,if a person keeps making the same mistake,then some people would call that person stupid(and the mistake would be called a stupid mistake.)