Dutrow's Confidence in Big Brown

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I actually enjoy Dutrow's bravado. Racing can be a game of unparalled characters.....and Dutrow definitely fits the bill. He makes it more fun in this respect. Let him brag away.......it makes a good story.

Dutrow thinks a LOT of horses he runs can't lose. If you like Big brown, and are betting him, you better hope this is one of the occasional times he is right.

I agree.

I went to see First Saturday in May last night and that is what made that movie and this industry as a whole so interesting. Life would be dull if we were all the same.

[slotdirt]

I don't know, Sightseek, I saw the same movie you did last night. Where was the Bravada in that? I thought I saw six pretty humble guys going for the ride of their lives.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

I don't know, Sightseek, I saw the same movie you did last night. Where was the Bravada in that? I thought I saw six pretty humble guys going for the ride of their lives.

I meant how different all of the people in the industry are, not that they all have an abundance of bravado.

[slotdirt]

Gotcha.

[parsixfarms]

I could care less about Dutrow's bravado. It's his history in the sport that make it impossible for me to root for Big Brown. Imagine if he became the face of racing for the next 7 weeks.

[Split Rock]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

I could care less about Dutrow's bravado. It's his history in the sport that make it impossible for me to root for Big Brown. Imagine if he became the face of racing for the next 7 weeks.

Couldn't agree more. The guy has zip class.

[freddymo]

I think he and his kind have been the face of racing for a long time. Isn't it about time the world sees them in all their glory? No longer are the Phipps, Whitneys, Mott's and Claiborne's the benchmark. Now it's the cheat juicers, Shieks, and Coolmore.. Like it or not they are all here to stay.

[pick4]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I think he and his kind have been the face of racing for a long time. Isn't it about time the world sees them in all their glory? No longer are the Phipps, Whitneys, Mott's and Claiborne's the benchmark. Now it's the cheat juicers, Shieks, and Coolmore.. Like it or not they are all here to stay.

You have cheats in all walks of life. Why would horse racing be any different?
You'll never see a horse testify in front of the US House of Representatives Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. The old days of the breeders who breed to race rather than race to breed are over. It's still a good game. If Dutrow Jr. is a cheater he'll get caught eventually once technology on drug detection improves. I know he has been caught for drug violations but I don't recall if they were improvement enhancing drugs or maintenance drugs.

[ELA]

Like it or not, that's kind of what you want in a trainer -- not the person, but the mindset, way of thinking, etc. Perhaps not the public aspect of it, or to that degree, but that mindset is what you want. You don't want a trainer who thinks, trains, etc. defensively. Sure, it cuts both ways, but very often when a trainers starts training defensively, then they start entering defensively. They pick defensive spots, don't tighten the screws so to speak, pick spots not wanting to lose a horse, etc. -- all of that. Yes, it's different with stakes horses, and there's no rule.

Dutrow is a great racetrack character. I didn't know him well before he got rolling, but to some extent, he has always been this way. He's a confident guy, boisterous, and whatever else you want to call it.

I've seen far too many run their business defensively, and from a position of weakness. When that happens, most of the time you are beaten at the draw.

Eric

[johnny pinwheel]

good lord , i hear this sort of thing every year. the horse has 3 races and hes the best thats ever been. sure i'll put my money on that, as the favorite no less. i'd be looking out for the people that are sandbagging. not the one that beat their chests.(somethings wrong with pyro? he sure didn't look it yesterday)

[pick4]

When Dutrow Jr is truly confident about one of his horses chances in a race he backs it up at the window. He "bets out" on the horse.