DERBY NOTES (4/24-25): 'Spell' to Oaks only..

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by GBBob

DOC may have a better chance than BATB, but he really isn't #21 overall, but moved up the list because of War Pass, Salute The Sarge, maybe Proud Spell, etc. So you're looking at a horse who was more like 25th in earnings and dug his own grave by a strange Spring campaign. Even if Hawthorne had a rail bias that day, a slightly better showing and he'd be in. Maybe they should be grateful that he's actually at #21?

They wouldn't be grateful at all.. Horse is doing fabulous and Carroll would really like to get the chance here. Peter Pan or Preakness are the alternatives..

After the tremendous workout the other day, Denis of Cork returned to the track yesterday and just looked powerful and fluid and eager to do more. Anyone who was a backer of the colt before the intrusion of Warren "advisors" Mark Reid and Mike Ryan should be hoping things fall his way and he runs.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Kasept

They wouldn't be grateful at all.. Horse is doing fabulous and Carroll would really like to get the chance here. Peter Pan or Preakness are the alternatives..

After the tremendous workout the other day, Denis of Cork returned to the track yesterday and just looked powerful and fluid and eager to do more. Anyone who was a backer of the colt before the intrusion of Warren "advisors" Mark Reid and Mike Ryan should be hoping things fall his way and he runs.

It's a good thing ( for you at least ) that you didn't have a mancrush on Jim Jones.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It's a good thing ( for you at least ) that you didn't have a mancrush on Jim Jones.

Chortle..

What can I tell ya? Horse is doing great... Was cheated out of an opportunity to follow through on the desired path laid out by his trainer last winter, and I'd like to see him given a chance to prove himself since he's this close...

[Danzig]

i liked denis of cork, until the train derailed...of course that has nothing to do with the horse or his ability.
but i don't know that even if he got in i'd give him much shot. of course the figs say he's sitting on a big one.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i liked denis of cork, until the train derailed...of course that has nothing to do with the horse or his ability.
but i don't know that even if he got in i'd give him much shot. of course the figs say he's sitting on a big one.

I beg to differ.

However, if he gets in the race I think he's worth considering. I mean, he's no Smooth Air, we all know that, but he might have a shot.

Yeah DoC will have a 10% chance of winning if they go 20 and 43 up front.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Yeah DoC will have a 10% chance of winning if they go 20 and 43 up front.

Well, he's one of the VERY few horses who has actually flashed some ability and comes into this race with a legitimate excuse. Considering that is a big part of how I handicap in general he makes a lot of sense to me. Whether or not he is good enough, of course, is the bigger question.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I beg to differ.

However, if he gets in the race I think he's worth considering. I mean, he's no Smooth Air, we all know that, but he might have a shot.

i just meant that the horse won't suddenly be slower just because his humans made dumb decisions. whether he'll be right for the derby, i don't know. but i still think he can be a good horse.
and i'd pick him before i chose smooth air on derby day....which isn't saying much.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i liked denis of cork, until the train derailed...of course that has nothing to do with the horse or his ability.
but i don't know that even if he got in i'd give him much shot. of course the figs say he's sitting on a big one.

Get to the point.. Is he in your RTTR or not?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Get to the point.. Is he in your RTTR or not?

yeah, actually he is...thanks for asking!!

[sumitas]

rttr

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Kasept

What can I tell ya? Horse is doing great... Was cheated out of an opportunity to follow through on the desired path laid out by his trainer last winter, and I'd like to see him given a chance to prove himself since he's this close...

Well, the winter book exacta I made with him and Make the Point is dead so I really don't care.