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Old 04-24-2008, 08:45 PM
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Right they have her back nearly 6 lengths after 3/4, but a little over 8 1/2 after the mile, meaning she closed that much in 1/16 of a mile. The final 1/16 was run in 5.82 seconds. If you use the assumption that 1 length is approx. 1/5 of a second, she ran 1.7 seconds faster than the leading horse for the final 1/16, in 4.12 seconds. This translates to a 8.24 clip for 1/8.

Plus if you watch the replay she is not 8 1/2 lengths behind at the stretch call. Don't get me wrong, she closed fast and ran a very nice race, but she is not the fastest horse ever.
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Old 04-24-2008, 09:12 PM
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I'll record the races tomorrow morning and pay close attention to the race. IMO, the most important part of determining the quality of a turf horse is the last two, or two and a half, or three furlongs of a horses race depending on distance, shape of the race, and pace of the race.
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Old 04-24-2008, 09:18 PM
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I agree with you there. I never handicap a turf race without looking at how a horse runs at the end, but in this case the information given through the charts is very wrong. When you watch the replays tomorrow, you will see that Them There Eyes is not 6 lengths behind Nedjma (the 5th place runner) at the stretch call.
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Old 04-24-2008, 09:45 PM
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I just watched the replay at calracing.com and here's what I saw.
I would accept the chart caller's word in having her back six lengths after three quarters and even 2 1/2 from the finish. However at the 1/8 pole she was behind by three lengths tops.

Thanks for pointing this out discrepancy with the chart call.
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Old 04-24-2008, 11:53 PM
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She's about five lengths back at the half and three quarters and about three off at the eighth pole ( a length to maybe a length and a half off Nedjma ).
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Old 04-25-2008, 12:34 AM
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No doubt. And maybe this was a bit too obvious to make my point.

Why am I error checking for Equibase?
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Old 04-25-2008, 07:47 AM
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Are you error checking or error finding? In other words, is your intent to uncover errors, or just to make some of your own notes and analysis, which brings these errors to light.

I think if you put the time in, day in and day out, you will have better information than the guy picking up the form the day of the races as a result of the human element of chartwriting.
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