Smooth Air

[Travis Stone]

I do think he's overbet though, as you can tell, a lot of people are picking up on a few of the positives on his PPs.

[tiggerv]

He's a nice horse who tries hard every time which you have to respect. The problem is that he isn't a classic distance horse and I don't think wants any part of 10F. Even with a dream trip I think it is unlikely he figures for a check.

[sumitas]

My 3 are SA, BBJ and CJ. They are visually the best time and again.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by tiggerv

He's a nice horse who tries hard every time which you have to respect. The problem is that he isn't a classic distance horse and I don't think wants any part of 10F. Even with a dream trip I think it is unlikely he figures for a check.

Who in the field is a classic distance horse that wants 10 furlongs?

[Gander]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Who in the field is a classic distance horse that wants 10 furlongs?

Court Vision, Pyro, Z Fortune.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Gander

Court Vision, Pyro, Z Fortune.

Pyro and Court Vision are ok although I'd hardly call them a classic distance horse. Z Fortune's sire has an AWD of 6.7 furlongs and his damsire has an AWD of 6.5 furlongs so I have a tough time calling that a classic distance pedigree.

[Thunder Gulch]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Who in the field is a classic distance horse that wants 10 furlongs?

Adriano, Colonel John, Cool Coal Man, Court Vision, Cowboy Cal, Monba, Pyro

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

Adriano, Colonel John, Cool Coal Man, Court Vision, Cowboy Cal, Monba, Pyro

Colonel John, Adriano and Cowboy Cal should have no problem with 10 furlongs......it is the lack of turf or fake turf that will be the problem. A lot of these others being mentioned are bred nicely for 8 to 9 furlongs but hardly have classic distance pedigree. Smooth Air really doesn't lag far behind them.

[Gander]

Do you really think you have to be a "Classic 10F horse" to win this?
Isnt this race being a little overanalyzed? After all, horses get behind a gate, and the gates open, and the first horse who crosses the line wins.
Arent most Derbys won by the horse who has the lead at the 1/8th pole anyways? From recent memory, I can only think of Giacomo's win as one that this race was won past the 1/8th pole.

Street Sense, Barbaro, Smarty Jones, Funny Cide, Monarchos, War Emblem, Fu Peg, Real Quiet....

Do any of these ring a bell? DId any of these need the extra 1/8th of a mile to win or lose this?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Gander

Do you really think you have to be a "Classic 10F horse" to win this? Isnt this race being a little overanalyzed? After all, horses get behind a gate, and the gates open, and the first horse who crosses the line wins.
Arent most Derbys won by the horse who has the lead at the 1/8th pole anyways? From recent memory, I can only think of Giacomo's win as one that this race was won past the 1/8th pole.

Street Sense, Barbaro, Smarty Jones, Funny Cide, Monarchos, War Emblem, Fu Peg, Real Quiet....

Do any of these ring a bell? DId any of these need the extra 1/8th of a mile to win or lose this?

No, I don't. Especially when there are none in the field to begin with. Which is why I think people dismissing Smooth Air on his pedigree is pointless.