Definite Derby Throw Outs

[Scav]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I agree. Especially because he likes Anak Nakal, who seems like a total toss to me. And I know he won at Churchill, but he basically lucked into a perfect trip.

I take it this is going to be used against me for a very long time

[Scav]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Not at all. It's not like you thought Spring House had a chance to hit the board in that turf race in Dubai, 'sup DrugS.

And you are right, Cool Coal Man did have good trips in his 2 races at Gulfstream. But Anak Nakal has been pretty bad since he fell into the win in the KY jockey Club. Like Travis said, at his odds, it's hard for me or anyone else to talk you off him, but I don't see it.

My only angle is this, maybe Zito hasn't tighten the screws. He has been making moves and flattening out.

I mean, listen, he got a great trip in his win at Churchill, but I just don't think people can toss him given his pedigree, his win at Churchill, expected trip, and the assumption that Zito has taken his time with him given the fact that he had the earnings to do so

[hockey2315]

I won't deny that Cool Coal Man got pretty nice set-ups in his two wins this year, but I think he's a horse who makes his own trip. He's got nice stalking speed and I like that he'll be forwardly placed in the derby but not TOO close to a pace that COULD be fast or may turn out to be more moderate than some of us expect. I also thought that he made a VERY nice move in the FoY. He's got a win at CD where he beat Recapturetheglory pretty easily, he's 2-for-2 at 9F on dirt and has the pedigree to run all day. His 98 BSF stacks up pretty well with this group and he'll be a pretty big price. Sold yet?

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

I won't deny that Cool Coal Man got pretty nice set-ups in his two wins this year, but I think he's a horse who makes his own trip. He's got nice stalking speed and I like that he'll be forwardly placed in the derby but not TOO close to a pace that COULD be fast or may turn out to be more moderate than some of us expect. I also thought that he made a VERY nice move in the FoY. He's got a win at CD where he beat Recapturetheglory pretty easily, he's 2-for-2 at 9F on dirt and has the pedigree to run all day. His 98 BSF stacks up pretty well with this group and he'll be a pretty big price. Sold yet?

I'm tossing him.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I'm tossing him.

Wasn't Scat Daddy your derby horse last year?

[IrishofNDMan]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Wasn't Scat Daddy your derby horse last year?

Scat Daddy would be the favorite and could very well win it this year.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

Scat Daddy would be the favorite and could very well win it this year.

No way, dude.

[IrishofNDMan]

Why wouldn't Scat Daddy be the favorite in this group?

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Wasn't Scat Daddy your derby horse last year?

Yep, but at least I hit the exacta by boxing Scat Daddy with Street Sense, Hard Spun and Zanjero!

I broke even.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Anyone know Scat Daddy's best career Beyer? I wanna say it was a 96. . .

98, in the Fl Derby.

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Yep, but at least I hit the exacta by boxing Scat Daddy with Street Sense, Hard Spun and Zanjero!

I broke even.

Nah, you made a couple shekels. Derby exacta paid $101 for $2.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by philcski

98, in the Fl Derby.



Nah, you made a couple shekels. Derby exacta paid $101 for $2.

I had win money on Scat Daddy and Liquidity (shut up, no comments please - I had a 'vibe' early in the season that a Tiznow would win the Derby) as well, so the exacta literally just covered my bets if I remember correctly.

Whatever, I loved Scat Daddy.