War Pass out with fracture

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

No he's not.

Sorry. I like to make my opinions based on facts. His 102 beyer in a race where the two horses that ran behind him ran their usual mid 90's beyers, makes me believe he is a fast horse. Facts are facts.

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by Benevolus

Sorry. I like to make my opinions based on facts. His 102 beyer in a race where the two horses that ran behind him ran their usual mid 90's beyers, makes me believe he is a fast horse. Facts are facts.

the track was a conveyor belt. the race was over at the first turn. There is more to horse racing than speed figures.

[AeWingnut]

sorry War Pass is injured. That is never a good thing.

So... who gets in that wasn't?

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

the track was a conveyor belt. the race was over at the first turn. There is more to horse racing than speed figures.

There is more to horse racing but not more to determining if a horse is fast or not. Recapturetheglory is a fast horse and if Big Brown bumped heads with him early you could kiss both of them goodbye. If I was BB I would rather have War Pass in the derby than not have him in there. If Bob doesn't take to the dirt a horse like Recapture could be out there all alone.

[hockey2315]

You seem to be confusing early speed and speed figures

Originally Posted by hockey2315

You seem to be confusing early speed and speed figures

No. I am saying a horse with early speed that puts up big speed figures is not just early speed. This horse is very dangerous if left alone on the lead. He isn't going to fold without some pressure. This Cherokee Run becomes much more dangerous without the other Cherokee Run in there. Now Bob Black Jack is the only horse i can see going with him and he seemed to try to rate his last race.

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

the track was a conveyor belt. the race was over at the first turn. There is more to horse racing than speed figures.

don't tell them that.! you are giving away secrets, like actually handicapping! like i said on the other thread: if the beyers and speed figs are so accurate how come everyone isn't getting rich and quitting their jobs? why do 2-5 shots lose ? if you are basing all your bets on figs you don't know much about the actual racing part ! i don't care if big brown ran a 140, i don't think he will get 1 mile 1/4 off 3 races with sore feet .

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Benevolus

Sorry. I like to make my opinions based on facts. His 102 beyer in a race where the two horses that ran behind him ran their usual mid 90's beyers, makes me believe he is a fast horse. Facts are facts.

Beyer numbers are not "facts"