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Old 04-19-2008, 11:49 AM
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He sure is. 2nd fastest dirt beyer in the Kentucky Derby field. His doesn't have blazing speed but he has solid early speed and he can stay. Horse is improving and is very dangerous if he gets loose on the lead, which he shouldn't, but if you got a triple digit beyer and you are improving....
Do you watch many races at Hawthorne?
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Old 04-19-2008, 11:53 AM
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Anyone else think we'd be more likely to see him back at some point if the Breeder's Cup wasn't being run on synthetic?
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Old 04-19-2008, 06:13 PM
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Anyone else think we'd be more likely to see him back at some point if the Breeder's Cup wasn't being run on synthetic?
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Old 04-19-2008, 12:02 PM
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Do you watch many races at Hawthorne?
I remember hearing the same thing about War Emblem and he did it at sportsman's park which had an even worse bias.

The fact is he has a 102 beyer and destroyed 2 solid horses. He is a fast animal.

You can also argue that Gulfstream Park is a speed favoring track. I don't hear anyone saying Big Brown isn't a fast animal.
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Old 04-19-2008, 12:10 PM
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You can also argue that Gulfstream Park is a speed favoring track. I don't hear anyone saying Big Brown isn't a fast animal.
Hmmmmm.....interesting point.
I think that might be because Big Brown is a quality stakes horse and Recapturetheglory stinks.
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Old 04-19-2008, 12:25 PM
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Hmmmmm.....interesting point.
I think that might be because Big Brown is a quality stakes horse and Recapturetheglory stinks.
First of all Recapturetheglory doesn't stink. Not only is he an improving horse with a 102 beyer but as a 2yr old he ran a solid race at Churchill finishing second to Cool Coal Man, who is a very nice dirt horse, winning the Fountain of Youth beating Monba, Court Vision, and Adriano.

Recapture is also a seasoned horse that will be making his 3rd start off the layoff.

I won't be betting Recapture but he is a fast horse that will be a huge pace factor. If a horse like BB goes with him he likely will not be there at the end.

As for Big Brown, he is a quality stakes horse but he still only has won at Gulfstream Park, unless you count a turf race. He also will have no work over the track, so the "quality" stakes horse still has yet to prove he is anything more than a horse for the course, just like you are saying about Recapture.
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Old 04-19-2008, 02:43 PM
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Do you watch many races at Hawthorne?
The pace propelled him to victory, not some rail or speed bias on Illinois Derby day. There wasn't one.
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