Is Haskin joking?

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

Absolutely...and the year before that. That's one of the reasons it's hard to make the "Big Brown/ Curlin 3 starts isn't enough" argument. As we know, Curlin turned into a great racehorse, but he still did manage 3rd with a troubled trip behind two that would trounce this field.

This I totally agree with. Most years, a horse with Big Brown's lack of experience and conditioning would have very little hope of hitting the board in the derby. But against this year's group? Uou cannot toss a horse with as much talent as Big Brown. He's really the only "wow" type talent that we've seen so far. Pyro and Colonel John have shown glimpses, but Big Brown hasn't shown a chink in his armour in the 3 races he's ran in.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

This I totally agree with. Most years, a horse with Big Brown's lack of experience and conditioning would have very little hope of hitting the board in the derby. But against this year's group? Uou cannot toss a horse with as much talent as Big Brown. He's really the only "wow" type talent that we've seen so far. Pyro and Colonel John have shown glimpses, but Big Brown hasn't shown a chink in his armour in the 3 races he's ran in.

You dont think coming down the stretch like he was running from an alligator as a chink in the armor, and also the fact that he has only three starts after a performance like he had at Toga is a problem?

Think about this, if his first race back wasn't rained off the turf, this horse wouldn't have even been considered for the Florida Derby. Dutrow lucked out here and while his race was impressive last time, what did he beat down in Florida? Gulfstream racing has been putrid this winter, and probably will be so for the next couple years. I am downgrading him based on that fact, plus the fact he ran a top that is absolutely HUGE for a 3 year old with obvious issues.

He can bounce to the moon and still win, but for me, I have alot of negatives on him (Distance, pedigree, sheet, lack of racing, running style), and few positives (power number last out).

I toss a horse like this 10 times out of 10. And at 2/1, with 19 other hilarious options, makes it every more worthwhile.

[slotdirt]

Originally Posted by Scav

I toss a horse like this 10 times out of 10. And at 2/1, with 19 other hilarious options, makes it every more worthwhile.

Classic line, Scav. Well done.

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by Cardus

I don't think that Big Brown will be near 2-1 on Derby day. Actually, I have a feeling that people are going to get cold feet about him on that day. Unless there are unusual workouts by him or Colonel John, I don't think that he'll be favored. Colonel John will be favored. And I'm thinking about 5-1 at that, with BB just in behind him.

........ i think he will be one of the biggest favorites we have seen in a while. whatever, if he loses its just another race for me to crumble up my tote. i think its a lock b.b / pyro exacta ( wow, that should pay alot )

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by Cardus

Are you talking an Arazi-like favorite (.90) or more along the lines of Fusaichi Pegasus (2.30)?

...... i forgot about arazi......... my buddy put 1 dime on him and stormed out of the casino for the rest of the day prob F.P

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Big Brown will be the favorite - of this I have no doubt.

[Thunder Gulch]

Originally Posted by Cardus

Are you talking an Arazi-like favorite (.90) or more along the lines of Fusaichi Pegasus (2.30)?

When did they eliminate a field bet with 14 entries? I think it was right after FP, give or take a year. The days of a .90 favorite are likely gone with 20 seperate entries. I think BB will go off in the 3-1 range when it's said and done.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Cardus

I don't think that Big Brown will be near 2-1 on Derby day. Actually, I have a feeling that people are going to get cold feet about him on that day. Unless there are unusual workouts by him or Colonel John, I don't think that he'll be favored. Colonel John will be favored. And I'm thinking about 5-1 at that, with BB just in behind him.

You are out of your damn mind if you think BB is going to be 5/1. One good work out of him and he is easily 2/1, even with medicore works, he is 3/1