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Old 04-16-2008, 01:30 PM
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Here is the deal.. Haskin knows more about horses and racing than most on this thread combined. He was getting dissed. I simply pointed out that the last 2 years he has had some observations during derby week on training that helped sway me back onto horses that I was considering tossing out at the top of my ticket thats all. These juveniles than proceeded to assume that my entire source of handicapping was based on what Steve said... They also bashed my thoughts on an immediate throw out of the juvenile champ (cept last year) irrespective of the fact that it worked some 20 odd imes in a row. There are some that basically simply attack every post that is put on these boards it somehow validates who they are. My fault for getting into a pissing contest. I'm done on the topic.
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:33 PM
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As analyzed earlier, it didn't work 20-some odd years in a row because only 14 juvenile champs actually made the Derby starting gate. It's really tough taking a stand against a horse who isn't even competing in a given race.
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:43 PM
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As analyzed earlier, it didn't work 20-some odd years in a row because only 14 juvenile champs actually made the Derby starting gate. It's really tough taking a stand against a horse who isn't even competing in a given race.
Dude are you a lawyer ? Nice value added though nitpicking my response. Ok 14 odd times over 20 years , you win, you are much smarter than I... No Mas!
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:53 PM
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Hoss would you like to up for a beer when I get to Saratoga ?
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:08 PM
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Meet up for a beer in toga when I get there for the Travers... We got off on a bad foot here and I'd like to buy you a beer to sooth over any ill will.
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:12 PM
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I give Haskin a lot of credit for being somewhat creative and not just landing on one of the 2-3 favorites.

Mostly, I give him credit for a write up devoid of strings of Speed Figures.
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:20 PM
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I give Haskin a lot of credit for being somewhat creative and not just landing on one of the 2-3 favorites.

Mostly, I give him credit for a write up devoid of strings of Speed Figures.
that was my thought. I don't get what the big issue people have with his list is all about. especially in a year like this. chaos may rule the day in which case some out-of-the-box thinking might be in order. year in year out this race is unlike any other and I'm not aware of any derby guru's on here. sure we all have our strongly held opinions beforehand, knowing full well that we could be all wet come D day.
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Old 04-16-2008, 03:59 PM
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Meet up for a beer in toga when I get there for the Travers... We got off on a bad foot here and I'd like to buy you a beer to sooth over any ill will.
Hey I hate your picks!!!.............what about a beer?
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Old 04-16-2008, 04:03 PM
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Hey I hate your picks!!!.............what about a beer?
didn't a wise man say beer was the cause of and solution to all of lifes problems?

oh wait, that was Homer Simpson.
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Hey I hate your picks!!!.............what about a beer?
Beer.....!!!!!

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Old 04-17-2008, 10:09 AM
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As analyzed earlier, it didn't work 20-some odd years in a row because only 14 juvenile champs actually made the Derby starting gate. It's really tough taking a stand against a horse who isn't even competing in a given race.
And several of those that did run had dreadful form going into the Derby; if graded winnings at 2 didn't count, they wouldn't have made the cut.
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:33 PM
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Hey jms, thanks for the civil response
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:19 PM
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Here is the deal.. Haskin knows more about horses and racing than most on this thread combined. He was getting dissed. I simply pointed out that the last 2 years he has had some observations during derby week on training that helped sway me back onto horses that I was considering tossing out at the top of my ticket thats all. These juveniles than proceeded to assume that my entire source of handicapping was based on what Steve said... They also bashed my thoughts on an immediate throw out of the juvenile champ (cept last year) irrespective of the fact that it worked some 20 odd imes in a row. There are some that basically simply attack every post that is put on these boards it somehow validates who they are. My fault for getting into a pissing contest. I'm done on the topic.
That's the way you made it sound, dude. Take it easy.
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