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Old 04-16-2008, 12:01 PM
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I think that's a bit harsh, Hossy. A claimer? Are the nine or so horses who finished in arrears of Tomcito in the Florida Derby all claimers as well? Hey Byrn? Fierce Wind?
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:02 PM
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I think what Hossy is overlooking is the fact that Tomcito is three syllables.

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Old 04-16-2008, 12:28 PM
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He will basically pass everything that totally stops in front of him....

Which might actually be quite a few horses in this years Derby.

He could run a nice 9th or 10th if the pace is hot enough
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:36 PM
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He will basically pass everything that totally stops in front of him....

Which might actually be quite a few horses in this years Derby.

He could run a nice 9th or 10th if the pace is hot enough
A must include in the Super High 9?
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:22 PM
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He will basically pass everything that totally stops in front of him....

Which might actually be quite a few horses in this years Derby.

He could run a nice 9th or 10th if the pace is hot enough
Might be able to get 4th or 5th if things COMPLETELY melt down... note the Imawildncrazyguy types- which is a lot more upside than most of these plugs. If I'm right, and the Florida Derby Beyer was actually too low, then he's got a legit chance to finish in the top quarter of the race (with a 0% chance of actually winning)

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Yeah I'm serious. Just because this years race is seemingly up for grabs doesn't mean EVERY single horse is playable. I'm just curious where his good race is.
Unfortunately I think we're saying that about 80% of the field this year. Boy does this group suck.
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:01 PM
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It would be nice if the powers that be change jcs' name back to POINTGIVEN1985.
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:17 PM
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Sheerly out of curiosity, has anybody ever seen any of Tomcito's races back in Peru?
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:20 PM
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Sheerly out of curiosity, has anybody ever seen any of Tomcito's races back in Peru?
Of course not. I don't need to see any of his races to know he's got a legitimate shot of winning the Derby. Three syllables...man.
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:22 PM
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Pantsy, you're speaking to the choir. This will clearly be the reason for Big Brown's downfall. (That and the incredible lack of foundation, but I digress)
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:21 PM
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Yes - they are on YouTube.

I've also looked at the charts and final times of other races on the card the days he ran - he was not exactly running alarmingly fast times over there in Peru in relation to other dirt races on the card.
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:24 PM
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Yes - they are on YouTube.

I've also looked at the charts and final times of other races on the card the days he ran - he was not exactly running alarmingly fast times over there in Peru in relation to other dirt races on the card.

Thanks for this analysis of Tomcito's South American races. It's often a complete guess as to these Grade I races, some do come up here and gel
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Sheerly out of curiosity, has anybody ever seen any of Tomcito's races back in Peru?
I saw one on YouTube once.
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Sheerly out of curiosity, has anybody ever seen any of Tomcito's races back in Peru?
Here's one...


http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...hlight=tomcito
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Old 04-16-2008, 05:31 PM
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that was impressive IMO...i mean he was only 2, beating olders... do are horses ever do that here ?
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