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Old 04-14-2008, 09:49 AM
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He's a closer that didn't like the surface and had no pace to run at. Who exactly was he supposed to pass at the end?

Maybe he was depressed he didnt get a chance to pass BLACKBERRY ROAD again.
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Old 04-14-2008, 11:12 AM
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They are all slow on figures this year, but Pyro has shown the best closing kick, which may be reason enough to bet him with the way this race always seems to be run.
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Old 04-14-2008, 11:16 AM
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They are all slow on figures this year, but Pyro has shown the best closing kick, which may be reason enough to bet him with the way this race always seems to be run.
Precisely. I like Pyro more now than I did before Saturday, because I don't give any credence to the polytrack race. At 5/1 or so in the Derby, which is what he would've been MAXIMUM had he won the Blue Grass, he would've been an underlay. At around 7/1 or 8/1, I think he's fair value.
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Old 04-14-2008, 11:40 AM
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Precisely. I like Pyro more now than I did before Saturday, because I don't give any credence to the polytrack race. At 5/1 or so in the Derby, which is what he would've been MAXIMUM had he won the Blue Grass, he would've been an underlay. At around 7/1 or 8/1, I think he's fair value.

Don't you really mean that you like his price more now? Nothing from that race can make you like the horse more than before.
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Old 04-14-2008, 11:42 AM
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Don't you really mean that you like his price more now? Nothing from that race can make you like the horse more than before.
As a horse, I like him just as much as I did before the race. As a betting interest, I like him more now.
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Old 04-14-2008, 12:55 PM
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As a horse, I like him just as much as I did before the race. As a betting interest, I like him more now.
Talked about the same thing with some of the guys at OTB Saturday after the race. Pyro immediately became probably the most attractive bet in the Derby to me. I don't always draw a line through Poly races by default, but I think he's legit and the price just got a whole lot more fair.
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Old 04-14-2008, 03:37 PM
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Talked about the same thing with some of the guys at OTB Saturday after the race. Pyro immediately became probably the most attractive bet in the Derby to me. I don't always draw a line through Poly races by default, but I think he's legit and the price just got a whole lot more fair.
Right or wrong, I agree with you guys. I just hope a lot of backers do jump ship as I suspect they will. If he goes off 10-1 and loses, no regrets because I haveto take a shot at something close to that price.
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Old 04-14-2008, 12:12 PM
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Precisely. I like Pyro more now than I did before Saturday, because I don't give any credence to the polytrack race. At 5/1 or so in the Derby, which is what he would've been MAXIMUM had he won the Blue Grass, he would've been an underlay. At around 7/1 or 8/1, I think he's fair value.
........ team, you will be getting a gift at anything above 5/1. he will hit the board but big brown is a FREAK. he will win by daylight.
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Old 04-14-2008, 11:25 AM
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Sorry I Respectfully Disagree, The Derby Is Rarely Won By A Horse
From Off The Pace, Maybe Staking 4-5th By Raely Off The The Pace Except For Street Sense And Sea Hero In The Last 20 Years
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Old 04-14-2008, 11:27 AM
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Sorry I Respectfully Disagree, The Derby Is Rarely Won By A Horse
From Off The Pace, Maybe Staking 4-5th By Raely Off The The Pace Except For Street Sense And Sea Hero In The Last 20 Years
With all due respect, this is wrong.
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Old 04-14-2008, 11:35 AM
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Giacomo was really close to that pace in '05, same with Monarchos in 2001 and even Fusaichi Pegasus in 2000. Those guys were all real pressers and stalkers.
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Giacomo was really close to that pace in '05, same with Monarchos in 2001 and even Fusaichi Pegasus in 2000. Those guys were all real pressers and stalkers.
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Old 04-14-2008, 11:49 AM
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