Derby Grid/Graded Earnings

[Danzig]

there are horses every year on the list that have no business going.

denis will squeak in i bet, i doubt proud spell takes up a hole on may 3.

[slotdirt]

Originally Posted by Danzig

there are horses every year on the list that have no business going.

denis will squeak in i bet, i doubt proud spell takes up a hole on may 3.

Right, but what have you seen this year from, say, Z Humor, that makes you think that horse is a legitimate Derby horse? Hell, Turf War could be up in the top 10 list yet someone with half a brain figured out the horse doesn't belong in the Derby. I wish others would follow suit.

Then again, it's not like they're keeping someone who has any more of a chance from entering the race.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Right, but what have you seen this year from, say, Z Humor, that makes you think that horse is a legitimate Derby horse? Hell, Turf War could be up in the top 10 list yet someone with half a brain figured out the horse doesn't belong in the Derby. I wish others would follow suit.

Then again, it's not like they're keeping someone who has any more of a chance from entering the race.

that's why i said elsehwhere only three year old earnings should count. it's a whole new season for these horses.

[SOREHOOF]

I'd like to see a point system to qualify. But I would use points earned as a 2YO.

[cowgirlintexas]

Just read that the owner of Eight Bells is considering entering her for the Derby. At this point, my $$'s on her.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas

Just read that the owner of Eight Bells is considering entering her for the Derby. At this point, my $$'s on her.

Here's the link to the story:

http://tcm.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=44586

[hockey2315]

She has absolutely no shot. . . That would really annoy me if they send her.

I'd like to see Denis get 21st.

[lemoncrush]

I would prefer a new system to decide who gets in as well, although I don't really know what would be fair.
Perhaps graded earnings in races a mile or longer. That would take out the winners of those early 2-yo stakes races.
And then maybe...the top 10 are determined by graded earnings, and after that there's some kind of point system, selection committee, etc..
Who knows.

[philcski]

My current guess on odds using 15% takeout, taking the top 20 earners:
horse takeout odds
pyro 7.5
proud spell 32
tale of ekati 21
colonel john 6
gayego 21
big brown 4
z humor 100
monba 13
court vision 36
z fortune 23
adriano 21
recapturetheglory 25
smooth air 32
cool coal man 16
anak nakal 125
eight belles 25
cowboy cal 30
behind at the bar 32
visionaire 43
big truck 51

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas

Just read that the owner of Eight Bells is considering entering her for the Derby. At this point, my $$'s on her.

God, I hope not! got her @ 22-1 in the Oaks future (pool #1) would be a great score the day before the Derby at those odds.