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Old 06-04-2006, 06:43 PM
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I find minimal joy in hitting a winner that someone else gave me. It's still joy. But it's minimal.

I like reading the picks others make in the selections section but mostly it's because I am looking for angles they found that I might have missed. Someone posting "I like the the 8" is meaningless. Someone posting "I like the 8 because he..." is better. My knowing the 8 is underbet because of "..." is best.

I think the money made is overrated. I like the puzzle.

I freely admit that I have a losing record on betting horses since I started tracking it in 1999. I have 1 winning year (though I am up so far in 2006 which will be 2 if it continues). I don't bet as much as I used to. But I still love the game.
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Old 06-04-2006, 06:48 PM
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I find minimal joy in hitting a winner that someone else gave me. It's still joy. But it's minimal.

I like reading the picks others make in the selections section but mostly it's because I am looking for angles they found that I might have missed. Someone posting "I like the the 8" is meaningless. Someone posting "I like the 8 because he..." is better. My knowing the 8 is underbet because of "..." is best.

I think the money made is overrated. I like the puzzle.

I freely admit that I have a losing record on betting horses since I started tracking it in 1999. I have 1 winning year (though I am up so far in 2006 which will be 2 if it continues). I don't bet as much as I used to. But I still love the game.
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Old 06-04-2006, 06:56 PM
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What I am saying is this plain and simple -

If Oracle wants to start selling his info -

This derbytrail.com poster is not buying

plain and simple, and I know darn well back a few months ago he said he would not sell his info but low and behold he is planning that already
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Old 06-04-2006, 06:59 PM
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What I am saying is this plain and simple -

If Oracle wants to start selling his info -

This derbytrail.com poster is not buying

plain and simple, and I know darn well back a few months ago he said he would not sell his info but low and behold he is planning that already
Nobody is saying that you have to buy it. Nobody!!!
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Old 06-04-2006, 07:02 PM
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Nobody is saying that you have to buy it. Nobody!!!
that's cause we live in the USA which is a free market enterprise

I wish you luck if you pursue but I will not play along, I'll let someone else
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Old 06-04-2006, 07:05 PM
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fyi Mike,

I know you hate to be proven wrong so let me find, and this will take me a couple days possibly, where you proclaimed to not be interested in selling info

lmfao when I bust this out
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Old 06-04-2006, 07:11 PM
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fyi Mike,

I know you hate to be proven wrong so let me find, and this will take me a couple days possibly, where you proclaimed to not be interested in selling info

lmfao when I bust this out

Someone I trust comvinced me that the info I have bene giving is worth money. Someone you know who posts here. I know what I have said. Ive been convinced otherwise.
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Old 06-04-2006, 07:10 PM
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This is the Curt we know...

It would depend on the price, I enjoy capping on my own, but I have no connections in the business and I can't watch races every day. Two things that are valuable and that you can incorporate into your own handicapping, is workout info and trip bias, take this with sheet figs and your own analysis and you could be deadly.

I tend to check results and read about horse racing daily, because I love the game, but I tend to bet large amounts on certain days. I pool my money with my buddy, we each put in $200 bucks into a pot on Oaks Day, we played the Oaks card, Derby Card and Preakness Card. We now have 2 grand in the pot and we are looking to use every bit of it on Belmont day, so any info I have while betting that money, I would be willing to use...
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Old 06-04-2006, 08:33 PM
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Nobody is saying that you have to buy it. Nobody!!!

You post your pick 6 ticket and people will buy. Where is the ticket?
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Old 06-04-2006, 08:37 PM
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I find minimal joy in hitting a winner that someone else gave me. It's still joy. But it's minimal.

I like reading the picks others make in the selections section but mostly it's because I am looking for angles they found that I might have missed. Someone posting "I like the the 8" is meaningless. Someone posting "I like the 8 because he..." is better. My knowing the 8 is underbet because of "..." is best.

I think the money made is overrated. I like the puzzle.

I freely admit that I have a losing record on betting horses since I started tracking it in 1999. I have 1 winning year (though I am up so far in 2006 which will be 2 if it continues). I don't bet as much as I used to. But I still love the game.

I picked up the game during college in 2001, and I will freely admit I ran up a VISA card to get off the ground ) I took my lumps and lost plenty, but have been on the positive side of the ledger since 2004.

In addition to my love of the animal, I play because of the intelligence involved to play and knowing that if I can outsmart most and see some angles they may not see, the reward will be high. To get those high rewards, their sometimes need to be high risk, which is where the fun comes, and you hope your intelligent, well versed risks are more solid than someone elses. I play a few cards a week, and I ring in my weekend with "The Quarters" on TVG every Thursday.

That being said, this is the United States, Oracle (and others) are free to sell anything they want. Their picks, their biases, their bodies, WHATEVER . I wont be buying, but the man is building his own free enterprise, so to each his own.

In other news, I paid Capital One back everything I owed from college gambling when I hit the super in the 2003 Breeders Cup Classic which was almost 5k for a $1, if I recall.
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Old 06-04-2006, 09:28 PM
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hey ora your ""class"" guy is burning you on the cross at espn..sooooo comedy
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Old 06-04-2006, 09:59 PM
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The fun in this whole thing is figuring it out for yourself. It is beyond me why anyone would buy cheat sheets or picks from anyone unless they are lazy and really dont want to learn. If one feels they are getting slighted because they dont have any "inside information", then go to the track and get to know people if that is possible. I have gathered through the years that each track has its own little nuances, and that if you are doing this for entertainment gained only thru winning money, your playing for the wrong reasons.

So I say lets have some fun comparing notes on how we play, along with what we play.
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