4/12 (OP): Arky Derby; Inst. Racing; N. Spur

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Oaklawnfan

You are not kidding! There easily could be a Sir Cherokee in this crew. Maybe it's my sentimental fave "Golden Yank"

Sir Cherokee would have crushed Valhol (Patin buzzer or no buzzer).

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by philcski

Sir Cherokee would have crushed Valhol (Patin buzzer or no buzzer).

if tagg sends my old derby horse Elysium Fields here, is he the favorite off of his fountain of youth try ? or do you look at the florida derby ?

[King Glorious]

I would hope that this field of goats would put an end to all of those people clamoring for the Arkansas Derby to be a grade one.

[tiggerv]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I would hope that this field of goats would put an end to all of those people clamoring for the Arkansas Derby to be a grade one.

[IrishofNDMan]

I like Blackberry Road because I have him at 75-1 for the Derby, but I really do think that he will be sent off the favorite in the Arkansas Derby against this field. Who does anyone else feel will be the favorite?

[pb72vett]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

I like Blackberry Road because I have him at 75-1 for the Derby, but I really do think that he will be sent off the favorite in the Arkansas Derby against this field. Who does anyone else feel will be the favorite?

You have 4 -5 that may get this BLACKberry 1st -2nd Victory Pete My Pal Charley Z fortune Ind Sun look them over don,t use chalk Peter B LOWELL MA.

[smuthg]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I would hope that this field of goats would put an end to all of those people clamoring for the Arkansas Derby to be a grade one.

I hate to say it, because I think it should be GI, but good point...

[Oaklawnfan]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I would hope that this field of goats would put an end to all of those people clamoring for the Arkansas Derby to be a grade one.

Let's see. The Kentucky Derby is run on dirt. The Arkansas Derby is run on dirt. Big talk coming from California. Goats, eh? See you at the windows.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Oaklawnfan

Let's see. The Kentucky Derby is run on dirt. The Arkansas Derby is run on dirt. Big talk coming from California. Goats, eh? See you at the windows.

Does anyone know who won the Apple Blossom and Oaklawn Handicap this weekend?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Does anyone know who won the Apple Blossom and Oaklawn Handicap this weekend?

zenyatta over brownie points.
tiago over heatseeker.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I would hope that this field of goats would put an end to all of those people clamoring for the Arkansas Derby to be a grade one.

oh yeah, cause they only base it on one year.

[IrishofNDMan]

I don't mind the weak field, pretty much guarentees that Blackberry Road will be in the Derby gate. First time I've made a future bet, so it is pretty exciting to me regardless if he has much of a chance or not in the Derby.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I would hope that this field of goats would put an end to all of those people clamoring for the Arkansas Derby to be a grade one.

This is funny... Curlin, Smarty Jones, Afleet Alex... if that's not a grade one list, I don't know what it is. And to think, Smarty Jones is on your top horses list.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

This is funny... Curlin, Smarty Jones, Afleet Alex... if that's not a grade one list, I don't know what it is. And to think, Smarty Jones is on your top horses list.

Smarty, Curlin, Alex.......all outstanding horses. True grade one horses. But the fields they faced in those races weren't grade one fields. One grade one level horse does not a grade one race make, IMO.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I would hope that this field of goats would put an end to all of those people clamoring for the Arkansas Derby to be a grade one.

Forgive me if I'm wrong KG... but wasn't one of "all those people" YOU??

This field blows, yeah, but no worse than the Wood, if you take out War Pass.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by philcski

Forgive me if I'm wrong KG... but wasn't one of "all those people" YOU??

This field blows, yeah, but no worse than the Wood, if you take out War Pass.

Hell no. I've always said that the Wood, Arkansas Derby, Florida Derby, Blue Grass, and SA Derby should all be grade two races. I don't think any of them should be on the same grade level as the race they are prep for, the Kentucky Derby. I've always felt that people are right, halfway, in that the Ark Derby needs to be on the same footing as the others but that the others should be downgraded.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I would hope that this field of goats would put an end to all of those people clamoring for the Arkansas Derby to be a grade one.

Astounding..

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

if tagg sends my old derby horse Elysium Fields here, is he the favorite off of his fountain of youth try ? or do you look at the florida derby ?

of course you look at the fla derby. doesn't mean you give much weight to it of course.

but cool coal man has not been flattered much by the company he kept in the FOY. that race is anything but key at this point.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by Danzig

but cool coal man has not been flattered much by the company he kept in the FOY. that race is anything but key at this point.

I don't think you can really say that. EF got heat stroke so that's a toss and the 3rd place horse (beaten by like 6 in the FoY) came back to suck up for 3rd again in the Wood like he always does.

[Danzig]

yeah, i know elysium got heat stroke. what about the other dozen horses in there? none have done anything since, some didn't do anything before it either. that race is turning out as weak as it was originally timed. a shame too, as i like cool coal man. but i think he's running into a buzzsaw this wknd.