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Old 04-07-2008, 10:41 AM
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Either way, a Jones-trained filly is in a top spot on the list.. Would be very surprised by Eight Belles though. It's Proud Spell who is the appropriate Derby filly. Will have Larry Jones on ATR today or tomorrow to clarify, but I bet he won't commit to anything until Derby-Oaks Week.
Was going to post the same thing... but you guys beat me to it. It's the [bigheaded] owner calling the shots on this one. I like both of them quite a bit for the Oaks, however.

Love that picture of Congaree.
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Old 04-07-2008, 10:45 AM
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Was going to post the same thing... but you guys beat me to it. It's the [bigheaded] owner calling the shots on this one. I like both of them quite a bit for the Oaks, however.

Love that picture of Congaree.
For once I can't say I completely disagree with him. If they were males and you looked at their past performances would they really be any worse than 4th or 5th choice?
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Old 04-07-2008, 11:11 AM
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For once I can't say I completely disagree with him. If they were males and you looked at their past performances would they really be any worse than 4th or 5th choice?
True... and I think while in the betting they may not be 4th or 5th choice, in real talent and potential to win the Derby, I think you are on point. Who would be ahead of them besides Pyro, Big Brown, and Colonel John?
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True... and I think while in the betting they may not be 4th or 5th choice, in real talent and potential to win the Derby, I think you are on point. Who would be ahead of them besides Pyro, Big Brown, and Colonel John?
Unless someone emerges in the next two weeks I have absolutely no guess who would go off as the 4th choice. Could be any of about 8 different horses.
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Old 04-07-2008, 11:27 AM
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Unless someone emerges in the next two weeks I have absolutely no guess who would go off as the 4th choice. Could be any of about 8 different horses.
Right now it would be either War Pass or Tale of Ekati. Both will likely be eclipsed for that spot in the coming week.
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Right now it would be either War Pass or Tale of Ekati. Both will likely be eclipsed for that spot in the coming week.
Tale of Ekati is looking better and better to me, although I fear that Saturday might have taken alot out of him, jock was really all over him, I thought he was a Derby horse last year, but then I couldn't understand what Tagg was doing with him. Tagg is probably a top 5 trainer in my opinion. I mean, he knew he had the earnings with this horse, and said, what is the point to have him ready, I'll get him ready in April. Derby will be what, his 4th start this year? Should be fresh, and should also get the trip. I just hope he doesn't get nuts and throw 57 or 58 works into this horse, would love to see some 6f 115 and 5f in 101, nice and relaxed
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Tale of Ekati is looking better and better to me, although I fear that Saturday might have taken alot out of him, jock was really all over him, I thought he was a Derby horse last year, but then I couldn't understand what Tagg was doing with him. Tagg is probably a top 5 trainer in my opinion. I mean, he knew he had the earnings with this horse, and said, what is the point to have him ready, I'll get him ready in April. Derby will be what, his 4th start this year? Should be fresh, and should also get the trip. I just hope he doesn't get nuts and throw 57 or 58 works into this horse, would love to see some 6f 115 and 5f in 101, nice and relaxed
Actually it'll only be his 3rd start of the year, which until last year was voodoo. Personally, I don't like him at all for the Derby, seeing them come home in 14 seconds was all I had to know about the Wood this year.

His owner is cool as sh*t though, Steve you should try to get him on the show!
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Hey Steve, did you include Visionaire's $22.5K for fifth in the Blue Grass?
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Awesome update Steve. Thanks!

Quick Edit: What do the horses shaded in green have mean?
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Awesome update Steve. Thanks!

Quick Edit: What do the horses shaded in green have mean?
23 Atoned Todd Pletcher $130,000
24 Z Fortune Steve Asmussen $129,000
25 Blackberry Road David Carroll $123,417
26 My Pal Charlie Al Stall Jr. $120,000

Those 4 respresent horses that 'technically' appear within the starting grid should the unlikelies NOT run... But of course all except Atoned will run this weekend and stand pretty good chances to improve their placement on the earnings list.
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23 Atoned Todd Pletcher $130,000
24 Z Fortune Steve Asmussen $129,000
25 Blackberry Road David Carroll $123,417
26 My Pal Charlie Al Stall Jr. $120,000

Those 4 respresent horses that 'technically' appear within the starting grid should the unlikelies NOT run... But of course all except Atoned will run this weekend and stand pretty good chances to improve their placement on the earnings list.
What about the others you have in green- Pyro, Court Vision, Cool Coal Man, and so on?
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What about the others you have in green- Pyro, Court Vision, Cool Coal Man, and so on?
All likely for Derby baring injury, etc..
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Really just asking why you coded those particular colts in green... was it meant to indicate something different from the others who are "all likely for Derby baring injury, etc.." (and are coded with red.)
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Really just asking why you coded those particular colts in green... was it meant to indicate something different from the others who are "all likely for Derby baring injury, etc.." (and are coded with red.)
Red has made last start.. Derby next.. Green still with start remaining.
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