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Old 08-04-2006, 05:30 PM
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I dont really use BSF to handicap at all. I find them useless in my method when I do handicap. My main tool is race replays. I use replays of races to see what the heck happened in the race. Did the horse get squeezed, did he get caught in a speed duel, did he make a move and flatten out etc etc. I then take the race replay and couple that with the times the horse has been running, the competition, does the horse fit etc etc. On Saturday there were two total underlays. 1) Planets Aligned in the 1st at Saratoga. The horse went off at 13-1 and the sheets and beyers indicated that he couldnt win. But the horse is in great form and he fit with the group he was racing with. Of course I had him to win. 2) Fast Act in the 4th at Monmouth. He had a horrible trip in his 1st start. He went off at 29-1 and no way should he gone off at that price. He was a 2nd time starter on turf out of Theatrical. He loved the distance and he was going to run into a speed duel. Things like this the sheets and beyers dont capture. IMO so many things come together to help you make your selection.
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Old 08-04-2006, 05:55 PM
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Don't take this the wrong way Euro, but if you look at times instead of BSF or another credible figure, you're really missing out. Times and BSF are printed on the same line in the form, so help me understand why?
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Old 08-04-2006, 06:24 PM
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I use brisnet and find them very useful to isolate pace, especially at the end of the race but keep hearing about rags or raglan sheets. I'd like to check them out...where do I find them on the net?

As for BSF they are subjectively objective which is the definition of about any horseplayer I know.....until the race is over.

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Old 08-04-2006, 08:40 PM
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Spyder, I'm a big fan of the Brisnet product myself. IMO, theirs and Trackmaster are light years ahead of DRF, and it has nothing to do with the speed figures they produce.
"Sheets" are produced by two competing companies who were once together. Len Ragozin was the innovator and can be found at www.thesheets.com. Thorograph was started by Jerry Brown, a former employee of Ragozin. I don't know either guy, but everyone says Brown is a better PR guy if nothing else. He lets you view a "Race of the Week" for free and has a lot of other promotions to get you familiar with the work at www.thorograph.com. Ragozin wrote a book about his work which was basically a 200 page commercial for his product with zero insight. As a sidenote, Cary Fotias uses sheet format to produce his "X-tras" product which uses a lot of the same ideas the other sheet guys, but takes it a step further by incorporating pace figures on his sheets. I'm just learning his stuff, but the early results are promising. Both Ragozin and Brown speak of pace as having an insignificant effect on most races(whatever works for you- I guess). Fotias is at www.equiform.com.
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