Dude is pregnant!!

[The Bid]

You're a pretty sharp guy Brian, Im sure you can see where a kid would be confused being birthed by his father, whos really a woman, but is living life as a man. Its not an argument against gays, gays having kids, or gay marraige. Its just commonsense that this kid is going to have a hardtime growing up, and how can that be argued?

For the record Im against any kind of marraige, whether it be gay or straight. Just seems like a miserable thing to me, why are gays fighting to be miserable.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by The Bid

You're a pretty sharp guy Brian, Im sure you can see where a kid would be confused being birthed by his father, whos really a woman, but is living life as a man. Its not an argument against gays, gays having kids, or gay marraige. Its just commonsense that this kid is going to have a hardtime growing up, and how can that be argued?

For the record Im against any kind of marraige, whether it be gay or straight. Just seems like a miserable thing to me, why are gays fighting to be miserable.

Especially for young people who are not ready for it and the responsibility..........
and get "cold feet" five months after the fact!

I've been with the same person for 18 years.....trust is something you learn in a relationship and sticking through the hard times.

[The Bid]

You are one of the few Triple H, congrats.

CG, Im certainly not liberal, but Im not closed minded. This is just an extremely perverse situation

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by The Bid

You are one of the few Triple H, congrats.

CG, Im certainly not liberal, but Im not closed minded. This is just an extremely perverse situation

When you know two young people change the wedding date four different times and now less than six months after decided that marriage wasn't for one of them....well, it seems like a lot of trouble for nothing. It's a sad situation that could have been avoided if they waited until they were BOTH sure to take the leap.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by The Bid

You're a pretty sharp guy Brian, Im sure you can see where a kid would be confused being birthed by his father, whos really a woman, but is living life as a man. Its not an argument against gays, gays having kids, or gay marraige. Its just commonsense that this kid is going to have a hardtime growing up, and how can that be argued?

For the record Im against any kind of marraige, whether it be gay or straight. Just seems like a miserable thing to me, why are gays fighting to be miserable.

I just tend to think the paradigm shifted, and has been constantly shifting for some time now. I would imagine there are some people around here who are old enough to remember a time when, I dunno, having a black father and a white mother would have been seen as the kind of thing that would give a kid a 'hard time growing up,' because the family dynamic was so out of the ordinary and generally frowned upon.

I guess I just think that change is inevitable, advances in possibilities are inevitable, and you can either fight it or you can take it for what it's worth and try to keep the world going as best you can.

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I just tend to think the paradigm shifted, and has been constantly shifting for some time now. I would imagine there are some people around here who are old enough to remember a time when, I dunno, having a black father and a white mother would have been seen as the kind of thing that would give a kid a 'hard time growing up,' because the family dynamic was so out of the ordinary and generally frowned upon.

I guess I just think that change is inevitable, advances in possibilities are inevitable, and you can either fight it or you can take it for what it's worth and try to keep the world going as best you can.

The sad truth is it really is much tougher to grow up as a kid of mixed color.
This is very general, but it seems that Blacks tend to see you as too
white. And of course Whites see you as Black. It aint easy.

I think this whole deal was a big publicity stunt.
Could have been avoided. This was probably not
the first time this has happened. First publicized.

[Cajungator26]

Bid is pretty old school. VERY old school.

[The Bid]

He will have an identity crisis like his mother. He will be confused, made fun of, teased, probably beat up. Forced to deal with a lot of things normal kids dont need to deal with. Normal 13 year olds are trying to figure out where to hide a porno mag, this kids going to be dealing with how to explain his mom is his father. He wont be accepted by "normal kids", or "normal kids" parents. Im sure you had sleepovers when you were a kid, most parents are going to take issue with his family situation and not allow that. Im sure a slew of issues will come up, its just not fair to bring a child into a situation like that.

I guess if old school is not having your dad give birth then yeah, GUILTY

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by The Bid

He will have an identity crisis like his mother. He will be confused, made fun of, teased, probably beat up. Forced to deal with a lot of things normal kids dont need to deal with. Normal 13 year olds are trying to figure out where to hide a porno mag, this kids going to be dealing with how to explain his mom is his father. He wont be accepted by "normal kids", or "normal kids" parents. Im sure you had sleepovers when you were a kid, most parents are going to take issue with his family situation and not allow that. Im sure a slew of issues will come up, its just not fair to bring a child into a situation like that.

I guess if old school is not having your dad give birth then yeah, GUILTY

You're old school on most topics - not just this one.

[The Bid]

Its 2008? I guess by 2025 most dads will be birthing their children, and it will be widely accepted.

The kid starts with such a great disadvantage I dont even want to speculate on what a horrible childhood he will have.