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Old 04-04-2008, 11:00 PM
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I don't suppose the kid could turn out just fine right? I mean isn't at least possible the parents will do a good job and really isn't that what is important here? There are certainly plenty of "traditional" parents that suck, so I could really care less what sex the parents of a kid are, as long as they do a good job.

Here's a novel idea.....tell the kid the truth. I doubt they'll mind as long as they're loved.
Sure.
The kid could turn out absolutely fine.
And I posted we already have enough problems with parents.

So why not just make it a little more novel.
Make it a little tougher on the kid.
Thats a good idea.

And they go on Oprah of course and received
no compensation. Perfectly normal. Share
your story. Get it out. Cash call.
Make your kid and family instant celebrities.
Excellent.
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Old 04-04-2008, 11:21 PM
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I dont get it. Whats wrong with a transgender woman, whos now a man, being pregnant, and giving birth?

Look at it from the kids point of view, its not difficult to explain that your dad birthed you. Where do people get off thinking its a big deal if a kids father gives birth?

Will the dad breastfeed him? Is thats what next, some transgender fruitcake trying to breastfeed their child in public? Then I suppose there will be an outrage from all the liberals when people are offended by it.
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Old 04-05-2008, 12:27 AM
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I dont get it. Whats wrong with a transgender woman, whos now a man, being pregnant, and giving birth?

Look at it from the kids point of view, its not difficult to explain that your dad birthed you. Where do people get off thinking its a big deal if a kids father gives birth?

Will the dad breastfeed him? Is thats what next, some transgender fruitcake trying to breastfeed their child in public? Then I suppose there will be an outrage from all the liberals when people are offended by it.
On second thought, I've seen how wrong my thought was. You and Pgardn are right.

Every
child
deserves

a mother
and a father.

You know, I get some objections. I really do. But on the other hand, I'm sick and tired of listening to people who have f*cked something up get all up in arms when someone else wants in. Gays want to get married? Nope, can't have it, it will ruin marriage. Obviously, unlike the 50% divorce rate ruins marriage. You want to have a child in an unorthodox fashion? Nope, can't have it, every child deserves a mother and a father.

When you suck at doing something, you don't get to play the moral relativity card and pretend that you have any right to tell anyone else they can't have it or can't do it.

Unless, of course, you're a self-righteous prick, then it's probably just standard operating procedure.

Nuff said.
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Old 04-05-2008, 01:11 AM
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If he was born a female than he is a female.
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Old 04-05-2008, 02:03 AM
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you had me worried that i was pregnant when u said dude!
we got one of these guys? or gal he wants to be called, at our workplace, even goes in the womens restroom, i shouldve used that line to get in years ago. but i think he is just klinger.
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Old 04-05-2008, 08:41 AM
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you had me worried that i was pregnant when u said dude!
we got one of these guys? or gal he wants to be called, at our workplace, even goes in the womens restroom, i shouldve used that line to get in years ago. but i think he is just klinger.

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Old 04-05-2008, 09:04 AM
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You're a pretty sharp guy Brian, Im sure you can see where a kid would be confused being birthed by his father, whos really a woman, but is living life as a man. Its not an argument against gays, gays having kids, or gay marraige. Its just commonsense that this kid is going to have a hardtime growing up, and how can that be argued?

For the record Im against any kind of marraige, whether it be gay or straight. Just seems like a miserable thing to me, why are gays fighting to be miserable.
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Old 04-05-2008, 10:04 AM
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On second thought, I've seen how wrong my thought was. You and Pgardn are right.

Every
child
deserves

a mother
and a father.

You know, I get some objections. I really do. But on the other hand, I'm sick and tired of listening to people who have f*cked something up get all up in arms when someone else wants in. Gays want to get married? Nope, can't have it, it will ruin marriage. Obviously, unlike the 50% divorce rate ruins marriage. You want to have a child in an unorthodox fashion? Nope, can't have it, every child deserves a mother and a father.

When you suck at doing something, you don't get to play the moral relativity card and pretend that you have any right to tell anyone else they can't have it or can't do it.

Unless, of course, you're a self-righteous prick, then it's probably just standard operating procedure.

Nuff said.

Why in the world do you
go on Oprah to get this out
in the open?

That tells me something about
the parent's decision making here.
I have no problem with the kid having
two people to take care of her.

But one has to question their entire
reasoning for having this child. And Oprah
stating this is a lesson in diversity? She is
not stumping for Obama here. What the
heck does this have to do with diversity?
Its not like this is a new race of people.

Publicity stunt with money involved.
Thats certainly the way to start off
with a child.
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Old 04-05-2008, 10:53 AM
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This is why the kid can't have a normal life. The whole world knows what the situation is. The kid will always be labeled as "the first child to be delivered by their father". The world knows the way she was concieved. There will always be some kind of media exposure about the kid. If the parents stayed quiet, then there would have been a chance that it could have been a normal situation. I just think the parents are out for a big payday. Already on Oprah and betting that magazines like people will pay big dollars for the first baby pictures.
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Old 04-05-2008, 02:33 PM
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For me its not a big deal,
All bullshit aside its a simple case of a female having a baby who wants to be a father.
With all the probs in the world it could have been alot worse !!! Crack heads deliver underweight babies addicted from birth, Abusive violent families where the children get hurt & the worse one of all !!! it could come out look up at its mum & she could be Britney Spears !!!!!

While i dont agree with the whole sex change thing ( i just dont get how a man could look at another mans arse & go wow thats sexy )If we were all the same it would be pretty boring
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Old 04-06-2008, 09:30 PM
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All bullshit aside its a simple case of a female having a baby who wants to be a father.
With all the probs in the world it could have been alot worse !!! Crack heads deliver underweight babies addicted from birth, Abusive violent families where the children get hurt & the worse one of all !!!
With all due respect I found the bolded funny.

A simple case of a female getting artificially
inseminated via sperm from her wife (she went
to the sperm bank and made a withdrawl for Dad)
but she likes being a man.
The family (mom and dad) decided
that the man who had the baby would play the Dad
and the Mom (artificial inseminator) would play the role
of the mom. The Dad is going to write a book about
his/her childhood which involves the suicide of her mother.

Simple?
I found it fairly complicated.
Which of course is why Oprah
payed these people to bring it out
oh so privately and then called it a
diversity issue.

I do agree there are a lot worse ways to raise a child
but that is not what was being discussed. And hopefully
the child is born healthy and happy. I think between the
book and the family appearance on Oprah, low socioeconomic
status will not be a problem. People Magazine is also involved
so its all good.
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