Post This!!!!

[miraja2]

Saying that his victory proves that post position there doesn't matter is really detracting from what the horse did today.
Being that far outside going 9f at Gulfstream absolutely DOES matter. That can't be disputed by anyone with an ounce of sense. The fact that Big Brown had enough speed in the first furlong to minimize that effect is to his credit. The fact that he was able to run the last eight furlongs the way he did is evidence that this colt is indeed a very talented animal.
I bet against him today, but I suspect that most of us that did were well aware that this was certainly possible. We just didn't like those odds.

As for the ride, KD unquestionably did the right thing in this race, but was there really anything else he could have done? It wasn't like he demonstrated great decision-making today, but he did execute a rather obvious gameplan very well.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Saying that his victory proves that post position there doesn't matter is really detracting from what the horse did today.
Being that far outside going 9f at Gulfstream absolutely DOES matter. That can't be disputed by anyone with an ounce of sense. The fact that Big Brown had enough speed in the first furlong to minimize that effect is to his credit. The fact that he was able to run the last eight furlongs the way he did is evidence that this colt is indeed a very talented animal.
I bet against him today, but I suspect that most of us that did were well aware that this was certainly possible. We just didn't like those odds.

As for the ride, KD unquestionably did the right thing in this race, but was there really anything else he could have done? It wasn't like he demonstrated great decision-making today, but he did execute a rather obvious gameplan very well.

You and the rest are MISSING the POINT. It's not that breaking from the 12 hole DOESN'T matter IN GENERAL, anyone looking at numbers can see that but rather that one is able to pick out the EXCEPTIONS to the OBVIOUS.
That's what the game is really about. That's why we're here kicking it around, some more strongly than others. You can push your numbers all you want but the ability to step outside in the exceptional cases is what distinguishes someone who either makes or buys numbers from someone who has a good intuition for the game. Nothing more, nothing less.

And your stat approach, like a good deal of the others, is getting in the way of appreciating a fine ride. And who cares what the horse paid? I didn't bet him. I don't bet < 4:1. It's about making a point with all the WISEGUYS with the STATS shooting their mouths off and now resorting to pat positions to save face. Admit it, your stats got your neck chopped off, like the turkey.

Gobble, gobble

Nothing personal, by the way

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

You and the rest are MISSING the POINT. It's not that breaking from the 12 hole DOESN'T matter IN GENERAL, anyone looking at numbers can see that but rather that one is able to pick out the EXCEPTIONS to the OBVIOUS.
That's what the game is really about. That's why we're here kicking it around, some more strongly than others. You can push your numbers all you want but the ability to step outside in the exceptional cases is what distinguishes someone who either makes or buys numbers from someone who has a good intuition for the game. Nothing more, nothing less.

And your stat approach, like a good deal of the others, is getting in the way of appreciating a fine ride. And who cares what the horse paid? I didn't bet him. I don't bet < 4:1. It's about making a point with all the WISEGUYS with the STATS shooting their mouths off and now resorting to pat positions to save face. Admit it, your stats got your neck chopped off, like the turkey.

Gobble, gobble

Nothing personal, by the way

Ummm okay.
If you want me to admit that I bet this race, and that I didn't bet Big Brown, and that I did that in part because he drew post 12 in a 9f race at Gulfstream....I readily admit all of it. In fact I'm pretty damn sure that I already have admitted it.
Congratulations on cracking the case.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Great post.

The 12 hole?

Well I guess you got to give Kent D.
credit for knowing exactly how much
horse he had.

Which was around a megaton.

[cmorioles]

I don't get the adulation. What else was he going to do? If anything, the 12 post stopped any chance of him trying to be clever.

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I don't get the adulation. What else was he going to do? If anything, the 12 post stopped any chance of him trying to be clever.

Slide in somewhere and save a little ground.
Not go directly to the front. He let Brown run.
When you saw those fractions posted, the truth PLEASE,
did you think the horse would draw off like that?

I did not.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Slide in somewhere and save a little ground.
Not go directly to the front. He let Brown run.
When you saw those fractions posted, the truth PLEASE,
did you think the horse would draw off like that?

I did not.

Come on,man.He has the tank full.This guys horses aren't gunna really get that tired.There is no burn to feel.I wouldn't be waiting around expecting his horses to tire.

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Come on,man.He has the tank full.This guys horses aren't gunna really get that tired.There is no burn to feel.I wouldn't be waiting around expecting his horses to tire.

The Dutrow black magic is suggested?

[Payson Dave]

hossy... i still laugh everytime i see your sig and then your avatar.....both f'in classics

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by Payson Dave

hossy... i still laugh everytime i see your sig and then your avatar.....both f'in classics

I got on DT this morning, slightly groggy and the first thread I hit, there was the avatar. For a millisecond I thought WarrenT was back.

I laughed and still laugh everytime I see it.