Dubai on TVG?

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

are any regular tv carrying the races even tape delay?

Per DRF.com:

The World Cup is scheduled for 1:30 p.m. Eastern and will be broadcast on tape delay at 2:30 on ABC. The races can be seen live on HorseRacing TV and TVG and on many online wagering platforms and will be streamed in real time on espn360.com.

[CSC]

Actually from a betting perspective I am not even interested in the Dubai World Cup, instead I am betting the undercard. Unless Curlin DOES NOT run his race, I don't see anyone that is in his league here. Jalil has wiseguy written all over him as he does intrigue me a little, but at what odds do you take the second most attractive horse in here?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by CSC

Actually from a betting perspective I am not even interested in the Dubai World Cup, instead I am betting the undercard. Unless Curlin DOES NOT run his race, I don't see anyone that is in his league here. Jalil has wiseguy written all over him as he does intrigue me a little, but at what odds do you take the second most attractive horse in here?

at least 10/1 on Jalil. I think Curlin has a 90% chance of winning, and I am only assigning that 10% not winning because of the hilarious things that can happen, even in the desert, in racing.

-Training like a monster
-2nd start off the layoff
-decent figure off the layoff
-lays over the field
-decent post, allows him to survey what is going on

He just isn't going to lose. If for some reason the public allows him to go off at like 4/5, it might be absolutely unload time for me, but I am guessing more like 1/2 or 2/5

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Scav

at least 10/1 on Jalil. I think Curlin has a 90% chance of winning, and I am only assigning that 10% not winning because of the hilarious things that can happen, even in the desert, in racing.

-Training like a monster
-2nd start off the layoff
-decent figure off the layoff
-lays over the field
-decent post, allows him to survey what is going on

He just isn't going to lose. If for some reason the public allows him to go off at like 4/5, it might be absolutely unload time for me, but I am guessing more like 1/2 or 2/5

All things being equal, I agree Curlin shouldn't lose; however this is horseracing and we know there are no locks in this game...Saying that I hate betting a race just for the sake of betting where my only hope is where the clearcut best horse doesn't run his race. History says American based horses run very well in The DWC, it's either that or a Godolphin horse as it seems with this race and I doubt even the connections will admit that Jalil is the second coming of Street Cry...

[CSC]

Or maybe I should have referenced Moon Ballad, but then again Harlan's Holiday is no Curlin either...

[CSC]

Curlin is the best horse to come along in quite awhile well atleast since Invasor ran, you can put those 2 in a class of their own. His numbers have been on the improve the more he matures.

Saying that I wouldn't want to sweat too much for my money tommorow, 2 mins of anticipation even on Curlin is a little more I would want to bargain for at his probable 1-2 odds.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Scav

at least 10/1 on Jalil. I think Curlin has a 90% chance of winning, and I am only assigning that 10% not winning because of the hilarious things that can happen, even in the desert, in racing.

-Training like a monster
-2nd start off the layoff
-decent figure off the layoff
-lays over the field
-decent post, allows him to survey what is going on

He just isn't going to lose. If for some reason the public allows him to go off at like 4/5, it might be absolutely unload time for me, but I am guessing more like 1/2 or 2/5

He can come 2nd...I have one question.Is there anybody here who has followed the game for atleast 15 years,and still gets excited about betting chalk horses (like this) to win less money than you have to put up? If you have to "unload," to make money,then you are going to end up in Gamblers Anonymous.Obviously,some people bet heavy on horses,but if they aren't having a chance to win a hell of a lot more than they are putting up,then they are in trouble(unless they have simply got endless resources.) I am not talking specifics here.I am not saying this horse can't win or whatever.I mean,in general,this activity will kick your a_s_s.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

He can come 2nd...I have one question.Is there anybody here who has followed the game for atleast 15 years,and still gets excited about betting chalk horses (like this) to win less money than you have to put up? If you have to "unload," to make money,then you are going to end up in Gamblers Anonymous.Obviously,some people bet heavy on horses,but if they aren't having a chance to win a hell of a lot more than they are putting up,then they are in trouble(unless they have simply got endless resources.) I am not talking specifics here.I am not saying this horse can't win or whatever.I mean,in general,this activity will kick your a_s_s.

This horse should be 1/5 or 2/5 in this field, if I can get TWICE that, 4/5, I percieve that as value and I will bet accordingly.

All it is, is a 3 minute (Plus however long to be official) loan as far as I am concerned because the horse aint losing.

And I obviously don't do this all the time, because I don't usually bet 4/5, unless I think the horse should be 1/2....

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Scav

This horse should be 1/5 or 2/5 in this field, if I can get TWICE that, 4/5, I percieve that as value and I will bet accordingly.

All it is, is a 3 minute (Plus however long to be official) loan as far as I am concerned because the horse aint losing.

And I obviously don't do this all the time, because I don't usually bet 4/5, unless I think the horse should be 1/2....

Siegel said exactly this stuff about WAR PASS(couple weeks ago .)Would seem one of you should be right.So,good luck.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

SCAV,what I don't get is, if you're a good bettor, you shouldn't need to play this obvious stuff for meager odds.It's like George trying to buy a championship for the Yankees.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Scav

This horse should be 1/5 or 2/5 in this field, if I can get TWICE that, 4/5, I percieve that as value and I will bet accordingly.

All it is, is a 3 minute (Plus however long to be official) loan as far as I am concerned because the horse aint losing.

And I obviously don't do this all the time, because I don't usually bet 4/5, unless I think the horse should be 1/2....

way too risky especially in this case if you ask me. you can't have a good handle on some of these horses given that they are coming from so many different countries so to me its hard to be sure that that value is real. everybody and their mother will be doing the same thing.

you've got big turf races in front of this race, with big fields and legit longshot potential. if you like curlin why not try to get much better odds with a double or pk3?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

way too risky especially in this case if you ask me. you can't have a good handle on some of these horses given that they are coming from so many different countries so to me its hard to be sure that that value is real. everybody and their mother will be doing the same thing.

you've got big turf races in front of this race, with big fields and legit longshot potential. if you like curlin why not try to get much better odds with a double or pk3?

I am trying to get away from P3's and you SUCK ME BACK IN...

How much money are really going to be in those P3 pools though?

I know...I haven't decided on how tomorrow is going to go yet.

This conversation is probably pointless given the fact that he will be 1/5 or 2/5 and in that case, I am obviously not playing him....