War Pass --DB ?

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by sumitas

KRIM
"The owner said that War Pass was sick. Based on how he ran yesterday, I'm sure he wasn't 100% and they knew it. It wasn't so much that they ran him when he was not 100%. It was more of the fact that they ran a GI horse in a GIII race that really doesn't matter that much when the horse wasn't 100% when the KD should be the goal and is only two months away. If it would have been an important GI, and the horse wasn't 100%, and they raced him anyway, my views would be different."

I have no clue what you are blathering about.


You're about as decisive as Hillary is on illegal immigrants. No comprende.

The owner said that War Pass was sick. Based on how he ran yesterday, I'm sure he wasn't 100% and they [War Pass's connections; Zito, owner, etc.] knew it [that he wasn't 100%]. [My current views of Zito] It wasn't so much that they [the connections] ran him [War Pass] when he was not 100%. [My views about Zito] It was more of the fact that they ran a GI horse [War Pass] in a GIII race that really doesn't matter that much when the horse wasn't 100%. The KD should be the goal for this horse, and is only two months away. If the Tampa Bay Derby would have been an important GI or the goal for this horse, and they raced War Pass when he wasn't 100% anyway [in a GI race], then my views [about Zito] would be different.

Zito and the connections probably have some deeper motive for racing War Pass yesterday if he wasn't 100% though. I said those statements earlier prematurely out of frustration. I will give him the benefit of the doubt, but I have seen him make moves before that were questionable. Every trainer does though. Maybe the horse was done, they knew it, and were trying to get one more race out of him. Maybe a breathing problem did surface. Maybe he just hated TBD and the trip. Who knows right now? I guess we'll find out. Hope the horse is ok.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

The owner said that War Pass was sick. Based on how he ran yesterday, I'm sure he wasn't 100% and they [War Pass's connections; Zito, owner, etc.] knew it [that he wasn't 100%]. [My current views of Zito] It wasn't so much that they [the connections] ran him [War Pass] when he was not 100%. [My views about Zito] It was more of the fact that they ran a GI horse [War Pass] in a GIII race that really doesn't matter that much when the horse wasn't 100%. The KD should be the goal for this horse, and is only two months away. If the Tampa Bay Derby would have been an important GI or the goal for this horse, and they raced War Pass when he wasn't 100% then my views [about Zito] would be different.

Zito and the connections probably have some deeper motive for racing War Pass yesterday if he wasn't 100% though. Maybe the horse was done, they knew it, and were trying to get one more race out of him. Who knows? I guess we'll find out.

How in God's green earth would your views be different? So you're OK with running sick horses as long as they're running in Grade 1's? This is hogwash.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

How in God's green earth would your views be different? So you're OK with running sick horses as long as they're running in Grade 1's? This is hogwash.

I edited the post above.

Trainers do it all the time...run the horses when they are not 100%. It's just that the best trainers pick their spots very carefully when their best animals are not feeling well or 100%, or they don't race them at all. I would prefer the latter, but that is not realistic in horse racing. I cannot tell you the number of times that I have seen trainers run horses, and knew that the horses running weren't 100% before they went into the race. It happens every day. If trainers didn't race their horses when they weren't 100%, there would be alot fewer horses in races.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

I edited the post above.

Trainers do it all the time...run the horses when they are not 100%. It's just that the best trainers pick their spots very carefully when their best animals are not feeling well or 100%, or they don't race them at all. I would prefer the latter, but that is not realistic in horse racing. I cannot tell you the number of times that I have seen trainers run horses, and knew that the horses running weren't 100% before they went into the race. It happens every day. If trainers didn't race their horses when they weren't 100%, there would be alot fewer horses in races.

Have you ever actually been to the track? If you have this ability to determine a horses health to a certain degree before the race you are wasting your time in college. You could make millions betting against less than 100% favs.

[Danzig]

war pass didn't lose due to a fever. or due to shipping. or due to not liking the track, the bad break, the pinching back, the rankness, the change in racing style....
but all those things combined...

he's 5 and 1 in 6 starts. i'm not ready to stick a fork in him. but, the old 'what have you done for me lately' syndrome is alive and well.