Odd musings for a very early Saturday AM...

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

the info that I posted is from the 2007 NAVC conference preceedings. I have faith that they know a hell of a lot more than you do.

It is not accurate for Warmbloods and Draft horses or for every light breed horse as well. Ask any international or Olympic rider. Some won't even start riding them until they are 4 years old because they are not mature enough.

I don't care what the a few vets believe and said about this at a conference. They have been wrong a lot of times. I mean, some vets here in America still believe in pin-firing.

Like I said, answer the question when do horses' bones stop growing and I will prove my point.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

It is not accurate for Warmbloods and Draft horses or for every light breed horse as well. Ask any international or Olympic rider. Some won't even start riding them until they are 4 years old because they are not mature enough.

I don't care what the vets say about this. They have been wrong a lot of times. I mean, some vets here in America still believe in Cross-Firing.

Like I said, answer the question when do horses' bones stop growing and I will prove my point.

FTFY

[Cajungator26]

Nobody is talking about warmbloods.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Not just talking about Warmbloods and Draft horses either. Even some light breed horses....

It depends on the individual...

That's why I gave the average number in the first place.

You would find a lot of vets that would disagree with the accuracy of those numbers from that conference for every horse.

My own horse would have been a very good example of the inaccuracy of those numbers.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Not just talking about Warmbloods and Draft horses either. Even some light breed horses....

It depends on the individual...

That's why I gave the average number in the first place.

You would find a lot of vets that would disagree with the accuracy of those numbers from that conference for every horse.

No offense, Jess...

I will go with Pais on anything she says regarding young thoroughbreds (which is the breed in question.) She has a lot more experience than you in regards to raising them. Our experience in the hunter/jumper world has very little to do with the racing industry.

To answer your question in regards to bone growth, it depends on which bone growth plate you're talking about and the breed of horse.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

No offense, Jess...

I will go with Pais on anything she says regarding young thoroughbreds (which is the breed in question.) She has a lot more experience than you in regards to raising them. Our experience in the hunter/jumper world has very little to do with the racing industry.

To answer your question in regards to bone growth, it depends on which bone growth plate you're talking about and the breed of horse.

You just helped my argument. The NAVC was referring to all horses...not just Thoroughbreds. Those numbers cannot be taken at face value.

All I was asking for was the age range of when horses' bones are fully mature. In other words, the age range of when their bones stop maturing and growing. That is all I wanted to know.

Because I have had experience in both worlds and had extensive conversations with those who have worked in all the different fields in both worlds, the racehorse world and show horse world are not very different at all in alot of aspects. The horses breed the same, give birth the same, hunter Thoroughbreds mature and develop the same as racehorse Thoroughbreds, legs are iced after race/show jumping round, foaling barns are ran the same way, surgeries are the same, and yearlings are prepped for a sale in the same manner that we would prep a yearling for an in hand class minus the steroids, not trimming with scissors after the mane has been pulled, and not braiding. There are a lot of differences, but a lot of similarities.

No one on here except for one knows of my experiences or endeavors, and even that person hardly knows all of them. Nor will anyone on here know the extent of them. You are not qualified to speak on them.

Believe who you want to believe. I don't care.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

You just helped my argument. The NAVC was referring to all horses...not just Thoroughbreds. Those numbers cannot be taken at face value.

All I was asking for was the age range of when horses' bones are fully mature. In other words, the age range of when their bones stop maturing and growing. That is all I wanted to know.

Because I have had experience in both worlds and had extensive conversations with those who have worked in all the different fields in both worlds, the racehorse world and show horse world are not very different at all in alot of aspects. The horses breed the same, give birth the same, hunter Thoroughbreds mature and develop the same as racehorse Thoroughbreds, legs are iced after race/show jumping round, foaling barns are ran the same way, surgeries are the same, and yearlings are prepped for a sale in the same manner that we would prep a yearling for an in hand class minus the steroids, not trimming with scissors after the mane has been pulled, and not braiding. There are a lot of differences, but a lot of similarities.

No one on here except for one knows of my experiences or endeavors, and even that person hardly knows all of them. Nor will anyone on here know the extent of them. You are not qualified to speak on them.

Believe who you want to believe. I don't care.

How many foaling barns in the racing industry have you worked in? How many champs (racehorses) have you had the opportunity to raise first hand? How old are you? 21?

Spare me.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

How many foaling barns in the racing industry have you worked in? How many champs (racehorses) have you had the opportunity to raise first hand? How old are you? 21?

Spare me.

amen.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

How many foaling barns in the racing industry have you worked in? How many champs (racehorses) have you had the opportunity to raise first hand? How old are you? 21?

Spare me.

I don't have to prove my worth on an internet message board. Those who matter to me know.

Can I ask you a question. Does experience outweigh knowledge and talent? Just because someone has more experience with horses, does that make them more knowledgeable that a starting out veterinarian?