War Pass --DB ?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

It's interesting ---well, actually it's not as is typical here --

that we're getting alot of rhetoric and even rhetoric with examples that some think actually make a point BUT

we have no data --we're thus off course

surely, there's ONE dirt race at GP that came home faster the last fraction

with all the PEDESTRIAN 1st qtr mile races (yeah, I know about the runup) surely
some horse better than WP has accelerated in the stretch, especially in a NON WORKOUT race

I'm not even a WP fan but I can certainly properly intrepret unique performances.

Still waiting for the 'counterexample'

What are you talking about? The only reason he technically "accelerated" in his final quarter is because he ran such a soft third quarter..

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

What are you talking about? The only reason he technically "accelerated" in his final quarter is because he ran such a soft third quarter..

I hear ya ...

I was acutally going to go through the charts and find him an example - but, the very first race I looked at was Monday's only one-turn mile race.

In that race - a 25K filly claimer ran her 3rd quarter in 24.43 and her final quarter in 24.64. A whopping 0.21 second deceleration from a nothing filly. And we are supposed to be impressed that War Pass showed a 0.70 second acceleration after a 25.18 3rd quarter?

Hopefully someone with a database can answer TFM's question.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Commentator was all out in his last.

War Pass was not all out in his last.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Commentator was all out in his last.

War Pass was not all out in his last.

no one was talking about Commentator's last race - he got a taste of real pace pressure early on in that race.

His 119 Beyer allowance win was two starts back.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

no one was talking about Commentator's last race - he got a taste of real pace pressure early on in that race.

His 119 Beyer allowance win was two starts back.

Sorry, my mistake.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Sorry, my mistake.

It's ok.

I still love ya.

People have taken a pass on War Pass?

I have not seen this. Its always fashionable
to try to find another but this horse clearly
has established an incredible sustained cruising rate.
Far better than any other horse as a 2 and now a 3 year
old. If this horse stays sound, draws well, and the Derby
track plays fast like many times in the past he does not
get caught.

Who in the devil does not like this horse?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

People have taken a pass on War Pass?

I have not seen this. Its always fashionable
to try to find another but this horse clearly
has established an incredible sustained cruising rate.
Far better than any other horse as a 2 and now a 3 year
old. If this horse stays sound, draws well, and the Derby
track plays fast like many times in the past he does not
get caught.

Who in the devil does not like this horse?

PG1985

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

PG1985

Thought that was gone?

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by pgardn

People have taken a pass on War Pass?

I have not seen this. Its always fashionable
to try to find another but this horse clearly
has established an incredible sustained cruising rate.
Far better than any other horse as a 2 and now a 3 year
old. If this horse stays sound, draws well, and the Derby
track plays fast like many times in the past he does not
get caught.

Who in the devil does not like this horse?

I don't. I loaned him $50, and he still owes me.

[AeWingnut]

Just look at him. He's the best horse on the derby trail. I don't believe Colonel John or El Gato Malo <-- now there's a horse that can't go the distance... Those two won't have anything to say about it

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by pgardn

People have taken a pass on War Pass?

I have not seen this. Its always fashionable
to try to find another but this horse clearly
has established an incredible sustained cruising rate.
Far better than any other horse as a 2 and now a 3 year
old. If this horse stays sound, draws well, and the Derby
track plays fast like many times in the past he does not
get caught.


Who in the devil does not like this horse?

lol...

[the_fat_man]

One of the pace figure makers really needs to answer this one. My intent all along.