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Old 03-11-2008, 07:23 AM
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Now, why would you worry about the price of something you think can't happen?
You sound like a fine gentleman from Joisey I know, he and his family owned a horse that ran a fairly competitve 2nd to Holy Bull in the Haskell.

Anyway, whenever I tell him a horse he thinks is really clever has no shot or is impossible - I always get the macho tough talk, followed by him asking for odds on a prop that is out of touch with reality from a fair market price standpoint.

I personally think Yankee Bravo has a less than 1% chance of winning the Derby. However, I would have said the same thing with horses like Charismatic (off of a 3rd place finish in the El Camino Real Derby) or War Emblem (off of a 5th place finish in either the Risen Star or Lousianna Derby) at or around 8 weeks remaining the years they won the Derby.

However, I can assure you both Charismatic and War Emblem were triple digit odds at any vegas future book.

Yankee Bravo closed at 41/1 in the pool 2 futures - and he's between 30/1 and 50/1 in Vegas future books.

Even though I think he's less than 1% to win the Derby, I want no part of risking 4K worth of liability to win a measly $40... even from you!...or guys like my Joisey friend.

However, if you want action that badly, you can always PM me and perhaps we could hammer out a price more in line with what a horse like Yankee Bravo might trade at in a betting exchange market.

As for Steve Crist being a big mouth - both he and his wife beat me at putt-putt and neither gloated about there victory. He didn't exactly strike me as a big talker.
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Old 03-11-2008, 09:21 AM
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As for Steve Crist being a big mouth - both he and his wife beat me at putt-putt and neither gloated about there victory. He didn't exactly strike me as a big talker.

I thought Steve finished last?
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Old 03-11-2008, 09:28 AM
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He beat me....though only because you guys counted penalty strokes.
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Old 03-11-2008, 10:03 PM
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You sound like a fine gentleman from Joisey I know, he and his family owned a horse that ran a fairly competitve 2nd to Holy Bull in the Haskell.

Anyway, whenever I tell him a horse he thinks is really clever has no shot or is impossible - I always get the macho tough talk, followed by him asking for odds on a prop that is out of touch with reality from a fair market price standpoint.

LOL-Well maybe you should stop bullshitting about the chances you think horses have at winning.You told me a horse stinks.You told this guy that a horse has no shot, or is impossible .That's a pretty strong statement,and it's also a macho lie of some sort,because you aren't ready to back the statement up by taking a bet unless it's at some fair market price. You wouldn't be that concerned about price if you really believed these lies you're telling.Why are you blaming others when you are the one understating the chances you think a horse actually has to win?If you think a horse stinks,has no shot,or is impossible ,then people are naturally going to want to bet you.The problem is you lie about the chances you think horses have.That's on you.Don't say it if you don't really believe it.
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Old 03-11-2008, 10:11 PM
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I think there's a 50% chance that DrugS ignores that post, a 40% chance he makes mincemeat of you and a 10% chance he admits he was wrong and apologizes.
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Old 03-11-2008, 10:18 PM
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I think there's a 50% chance that DrugS ignores that post, a 40% chance he makes mincemeat of you and a 10% chance he admits he was wrong and apologizes.
I think the chances he will ignore it are over-estimated.I give it 1% that he admits he shouldn't lie about a horse's chances of winning.

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Old 03-11-2008, 10:39 PM
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If you think a horse stinks,has no shot,or is impossible ,then people are naturally going to want to bet you.The problem is you lie about the chances you think horses have.That's on you.Don't say it if you don't really believe it.
Were you saving this one all night?

So, you are saying that I think Yankee Bravo has a big shot in the Derby, but I am lying to you and saying he doesn't?

Brilliant stuff.
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Old 03-12-2008, 12:53 AM
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Were you saving this one all night?

So, you are saying that I think Yankee Bravo has a big shot in the Derby, but I am lying to you and saying he doesn't?

Brilliant stuff.
You lied when you said he stinks.If he stinks,then you wouldn't have worried about the odds.Why would you care(if you think he stinks,then he can't win.)Fact is you don't really think he stinks.If you're worrying about odds,then you think he has a shot to make you pay me.
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Old 03-12-2008, 01:20 AM
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You lied when you said he stinks.If he stinks,then you wouldn't have worried about the odds.Why would you care(if you think he stinks,then he can't win.)Fact is you don't really think he stinks.If you're worrying about odds,then you think he has a shot to make you pay me.
f'in turk.
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Old 03-12-2008, 02:27 PM
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f'in turk.
When a 1/2 TURK singer(which ya own songs with) tells ya he has a cold...........o' never mind......They must have outlawed lie detectors long ago in that country.
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