Guess where Pyro's standing at the end of his career (in eight months)

[Cannon Shell]

It is always nice to see a horses stud plans wrapped up before he wins a grade 1 race.

I officially hope he fails miserably.

I like the horse, hope he does not
get hurt, but here is hoping he runs
some real duds.

I now vex him with complete
boredom each time he enters the
gate... complete disinterest in racing.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I officially hope he fails miserably.

I like the horse, hope he does not
get hurt, but here is hoping he runs
some real duds.

I now vex him with complete
boredom each time he enters the
gate... complete disinterest in racing.

It is always refreshing to know that Sheikh Mo is trying to beat the crowd and get the pre-Triple Crown discount. I will have to ask Drugs because only he would know this but has there ever been a KY Derby fav who consistently runs slower than his female counerparts on the same race card?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It is always refreshing to know that Sheikh Mo is trying to beat the crowd and get the pre-Triple Crown discount. I will have to ask Drugs because only he would know this but has there ever been a KY Derby fav who consistently runs slower than his female counerparts on the same race card?

darley better hope that trend doesn't continue in his next career!!!

[blackthroatedwind]

So, if Pyro flounders along, and doesn't win a Grade 1, will they race him next year?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

So, if Pyro flounders along, and doesn't win a Grade 1, will they race him next year?

If he doesnt win a grade 1 this year they may geld him

[blackthroatedwind]

I don't blame the owners for selling ( in fact they're very smart ). I guess money is meaningless to the Sheik, so he can way overpay for anything he wants, and nobody else is even in the marketplace. And, the only way we get to see decent 4YOs anymore is if they pretty much flop at 3 ( like Circular Quay ).

I guess if you have a personal fancy for a 3YO you should hope it flops or gets a minor injury before it gets snatched up by the Sheik.

[Danzig]

my guess would be no.

[CSC]

Let them have him I say, I would be more worried if they got a hold of Smart Strike instead who right now is arguably the best sire in North America. Losing him would hurt, he is perhaps as irreplaceable a Stallian there is at the moment.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I officially hope he fails miserably.

I like the horse, hope he does not
get hurt, but here is hoping he runs
some real duds.

I now vex him with complete
boredom each time he enters the
gate... complete disinterest in racing.

That's the way I feel, too. I rooted for Curlin in the BC Classic because there was at least a CHANCE he would run again at 4. Had he finished behind Street Sense and/or Hard Spun, the handicap division would be even more depressing this year.

There's only one top 3-yr-old guaranteed to run next year barring injury: El Gato Malo! Let's hope he takes to real dirt.

--Dunbar

[justindew]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It is always nice to see a horses stud plans wrapped up before he wins a grade 1 race.

But Chuck, you aren't taking into consideration the fact that Pyro is currently FAVORED to win a Grade 1. Of course I'm referring to Pool 2 of the Kentucky Derby Presented by Yum! Brands Future Wager, where Pyro closed at a juicy 4-1.

When you consider he'll probably be as low as 4-1 on Derby Day, getting the bet down now just makes sense. I think you would agree with me.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by justindew

But Chuck, you aren't taking into consideration the fact that Pyro is currently FAVORED to win a Grade 1. Of course I'm referring to Pool 2 of the Kentucky Derby Presented by Yum! Brands Future Wager, where Pyro closed at a juicy 4-1.

When you consider he'll probably be as low as 4-1 on Derby Day, getting the bet down now just makes sense. I think you would agree with me.

No because they really dont compete with anyone. If there were other entities that were playing on the same level that they are maybe but the fact remains that the horse has never won a grade 1 race. I can see it now the ads , "He was favored to win the Derby in pool 2"

The business aspect is a card to be played by the people cashing out, not the oil barons.You can argue that businesswise it was a good move because we dont know what they paid for him. You could make a case that it would be better for him not to run again because of "injury" because then he will be supported on what he might have done or was supposed to do, instead of actual accomplishment, which is how the Big Browns of the world get famous.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

No because they really dont compete with anyone. If there were other entities that were playing on the same level that they are maybe but the fact remains that the horse has never won a grade 1 race. I can see it now the ads , "He was favored to win the Derby in pool 2"

The business aspect is a card to be played by the people cashing out, not the oil barons.You can argue that businesswise it was a good move because we dont know what they paid for him. You could make a case that it would be better for him not to run again because of "injury" because then he will be supported on what he might have done or was supposed to do, instead of actual accomplishment, which is how the Big Browns of the world get famous.

Clearly my original comment was tongue-in-cheek, but that being said, we know the Hard Spun sale had a Grade I clause. Maybe this has a similar bonus.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by justindew

Clearly my original comment was tongue-in-cheek, but that being said, we know the Hard Spun sale had a Grade I clause. Maybe this has a similar bonus.

One would hope