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03-08-2008, 06:06 PM
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Give Bravo a real rider n' He and PYRO hit the wire together.What a waste of a mount.Somebody good gunna want this mount,and I hope they get it.
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03-08-2008, 06:15 PM
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He'll do well vs. War Pass when they meet again.....2nd best, once again!
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03-08-2008, 06:20 PM
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let's just not have the triple crown races this year.
jeez
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03-08-2008, 06:25 PM
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Not the performance I was expecting...
This crop just continues to look weaker and weaker.
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03-08-2008, 06:27 PM
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I guess I was more impressed with him than all of you guys seem to be, although the crop as a whole continues to look poor. The time was obviously not great compared to what Proud Spell did in the previous race, but Pyro ran into some trouble in the second half of the race and overcame it to win easily.
As far as I am concerned he was far more impressive than Proud Spell throughout the last 2.5 furlongs of the race, despite not getting ideal fractions to run into.....again. He clearly isn't great at this point, but he seems pretty good to me.
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03-08-2008, 06:32 PM
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Pyro sprints away from a MCL in the last 16th while every other horse is gasping. Combine that with the time... eeek.
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03-08-2008, 06:40 PM
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I think it's fashionable to say that Pyro has improved since the fall. I'm not so sure. I think he was better than these horses in the fall and he's still better than them. I feel like it's impossible to tell how much he's improved. I don't think anything more can be taken from this race than can be taken from War Pass' race or from Big Brown's race. Each situation has been one good horse against vastly inferior horses and the good horse doing what he's supposed to do. Majestic Warrior, Tale of Ekati are "name" horses so it seemed like this was a deep field today but under the conditions they were put under, they had no shot at all to give their best and even their best might not have suited the conditions of today being that neither of them has proven they can win past 7f or around two-turns.
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03-08-2008, 06:34 PM
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Proud Spell will never get a better situation than she got today. With a real fast pace to set Pyro up - he could certainly run a lot better than his softish win today.
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03-08-2008, 06:46 PM
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4th place finisher Imawildandcrazyguy just ran 3rd in a small stake at Tampa today. All things being equal, I'd prefer a closing style in the Derby.
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03-09-2008, 10:08 AM
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Speed: War Emblem, Go for Gin SPend a Buck, Winning Colors Pressers: Smarty Jones, Swale, Sunny's Halo Stalkers:Barbaro, Funny Cide, Charismatic, Real Quiet, Silver Charm, Thunder Gulch, Lil E Tee, Sunday Silence Closers: Street Sense, Giacomo, Monarchos, Fusaichi Pegasus, Grindstone, Sea Hero, Strike the Gold, Unbridled, Alysheba, Ferdinand And with the bigger field, it does seem that some pressers going into the race became stalkers (Silver Charm, Funny Cide and Barbaro) and stalkers can become closers. But I wouldn't hold Pyro's running style against him.
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03-08-2008, 06:35 PM
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03-09-2008, 08:19 AM
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Oaks 48.17/112.8 Derby 48.07/113.86 Proud Spell or Indian Blessing did not have to face the trip that Pyro did. He was boxed in and for a second it looked like he had no way out. He split horses and then gained his best stride when open and started to really open up. I guess it is fashionable to trash pyro but he comes from off the pace so his numbers get tempered by the pace he is up against. I do however agree that style-wise he could run into real difficulty the first Sat in May and will need a little racing luck to get the proper trip
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