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Old 03-08-2008, 03:01 PM
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Tell you this about Grasshopper, he is a hell of a looking horse....
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Old 03-08-2008, 03:15 PM
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CQ was very gutty in that stretch run....as was GH
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Old 03-08-2008, 03:29 PM
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Tell you this about Grasshopper, he is a hell of a looking horse....
yeah he is, would love to see a different rider though.
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Old 03-08-2008, 03:29 PM
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grasshopper is the most overrated horse since tiago.
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Old 03-08-2008, 03:37 PM
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odds on Solis effing up the ride on Daytona..

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Old 03-08-2008, 03:43 PM
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grasshopper is the most overrated horse since tiago.
Uh.. wow. Tough crowd.. Looked to me like he contested the lead all the way and then when confronted by a fresh dream trip opponent battled him the rest of the way to the wire.

So in other words, ran without a breather at any point from gate to wire and got beat a half length. But he's over rated...

Race wasn't run anything like it was going to be had Silver Lord not blown the break either, so adjustments get made and things unfold the way they do..
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Old 03-08-2008, 04:04 PM
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Uh.. wow. Tough crowd.. Looked to me like he contested the lead all the way and then when confronted by a fresh dream trip opponent battled him the rest of the way to the wire.

So in other words, ran without a breather at any point from gate to wire and got beat a half length. But he's over rated...

Race wasn't run anything like it was going to be had Silver Lord not blown the break either, so adjustments get made and things unfold the way they do..
What kind of breather does he need going those kinds of fractions? You say CQ had a dream trip and was fresh? They've both run one race this year and on those soft fractions with a clear lead, I thought Grasshopper was the one with the dream trip. CQ was being held back to keep him from going after the leader too soon.

That race looked like neither one really wanted to win but it was an exciting dual nonetheless. I'm glad CQ won since he was one of the two horses I said last spring had a chance to win the Derby (along with Notional) but I don't think either of those horses today are going to evoke memories of top horses in the past. Fortunately for them, this is 2008 and it doesn't take much to be a top horse so they both are in the running for top older horse.

I can't believe Tagg is not even considering taking Nobiz back to the dirt.
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Old 03-08-2008, 04:11 PM
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Damn i am stunned with how bad Brilliant looked.....Ive always followed this horse and a run likt this with his last race it just looks like he doesn't want to run anymore. Didn't look good at any part of the race. I am not doing too good today. I cashed on the 1st bet i made on Block and as usual that is the kiss of death for the rest of my day. Dammit
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Old 03-08-2008, 04:12 PM
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Blessing gets it all her own way in a match race and comes up short.
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Old 03-08-2008, 04:16 PM
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Blessing gets it all her own way in a match race and comes up short.
IMO Gomez screwed up by trying to slow IB down the backside.
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Old 03-08-2008, 05:29 PM
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What kind of breather does he need going those kinds of fractions? You say CQ had a dream trip and was fresh? They've both run one race this year and on those soft fractions with a clear lead, I thought Grasshopper was the one with the dream trip.
The biggest misconception in horse racing is the representation of fractions as an easy or perfect trip. They are a contributor, but when there is another rival alongside you, it's far different than being alone in front with those same fractions. Grasshopper put away Magna Graduate, and just couldn't hold off CQ. I do think Robby Albarado rode Grasshopper way too cute and didn't do the horse any favors. Saying his trip was perfect is far from accurate.
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Old 03-08-2008, 05:44 PM
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The biggest misconception in horse racing is the representation of fractions as an easy or perfect trip. They are a contributor, but when there is another rival alongside you, it's far different than being alone in front with those same fractions. Grasshopper put away Magna Graduate, and just couldn't hold off CQ. I do think Robby Albarado rode Grasshopper way too cute and didn't do the horse any favors. Saying his trip was perfect is far from accurate.
I understand the fractions thing but I still thought he was going slow enough to have been able to win it. Maybe his trip wasn't perfect but I thought it was easier than CQ's.
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Old 03-08-2008, 03:47 PM
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grasshopper is the most overrated horse since tiago.
He was very game.
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Old 03-08-2008, 04:23 PM
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He was very game.
Grasshopper is very moderate.
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Old 03-08-2008, 04:25 PM
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Grasshopper is very moderate.
Maybe so, but game nonetheless. He didn't just spit the bit (which he could have.)
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Old 03-08-2008, 05:29 PM
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i certainly enjoyed the stretch run between grasshopper and circular far more than that joke of a 'match race' (due to scratches) at gulfstream. but then, that isn't saying a whole lot.
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Old 03-08-2008, 05:30 PM
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Grasshopper is very moderate.
I'm guessing the Beyer comes back around 100-102, which is right in line with the top two finishers. I think he's a competitive grade two horse.
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Old 03-08-2008, 05:50 PM
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I'm guessing the Beyer comes back around 100-102, which is right in line with the top two finishers. I think he's a competitive grade two horse.
In the handicap divisions of 1996 through 1998, a Beyer in that range would get you beat almost double digits in many Grade 2's.
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Old 03-08-2008, 08:36 PM
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Tell you this about Grasshopper, he is a hell of a looking horse....
Yes! u have stumbled uncontrollably into the truth! reminds me of the first time i saw bettertalknow in the paddock on belmont stakes day last june. talk about sculptured athletes! some horses are just a joy to watch...which is probably why i keep coming back!

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