For Blackthroat & Big Brown (104 BSF) fans

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

And he was seriously geared down...the other were running at the end...

We will have to agree to disagree on this.

After watching the races, Big Brown got his 7F in 1:22.69 I believe. He won like he was supposed to and if he keeps it together physically, which I doubt, he's probably OK. Unfortunately for him he is going to be rushed, if he stays sound, most likely to the Blue Grass and then probably the Preakness after he fails to qualify for the Derby. If he was given a more sane program it's very possible, if he stays sound, that he could really have something to say later in the year. I highly doubt that will happen.

As for Ready's Echo.....fast pace, weak field, sweet trip, but a very nice effort still after a six month layoff. I would imagine his connections won't be crazy enough to bury him in the Florida Derby. Maybe they will run him in a race like the Bay Shore on Wood Day or even the Withers three weeks later. I'm surprised he didn't have a lot more speed today ( obviously he wasn't going to be 25 lengths behind early ) but he also has the kind of running style that tends to make people overrate his performances. Still, he seems like a neat horse and could easily make some noise later. How far he goes remains to be seen but hopefully he won't get buried before he has a chance to show where his niche lies.

[NoLuvForPletch]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

We will have to agree to disagree on this.

After watching the races, Big Brown got his 7F in 1:22.69 I believe. He won like he was supposed to and if he keeps it together physically, which I doubt, he's probably OK. Unfortunately for him he is going to be rushed, if he stays sound, most likely to the Blue Grass and then probably the Preakness after he fails to qualify for the Derby. If he was given a more sane program it's very possible, if he stays sound, that he could really have something to say later in the year. I highly doubt that will happen.

As for Ready's Echo.....fast pace, weak field, sweet trip, but a very nice effort still after a six month layoff. I would imagine his connections won't be crazy enough to bury him in the Florida Derby. Maybe they will run him in a race like the Bay Shore on Wood Day or even the Withers three weeks later. I'm surprised he didn't have a lot more speed today ( obviously he wasn't going to be 25 lengths behind early ) but he also has the kind of running style that tends to make people overrate his performances. Still, he seems like a neat horse and could easily make some noise later. How far he goes remains to be seen but hopefully he won't get buried before he has a chance to show where his niche lies.

I'm not sure I understand with what you disagree with me regarding? I was only stating that Big Brown was geared down, whereas the 7f runners were running at the end of their respective races, thus making BB performance all the more impressive...

I heard Gulfstream got .01 inch of rain. I'm relieved they took the races off the turf.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

I'm not sure I understand with what you disagree with me regarding? I was only stating that Big Brown was geared down, whereas the 7f runners were running at the end of their respective races, thus making BB performance all the more impressive...

I think he ran as fast as he was capable of in this race.

[NoLuvForPletch]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I think he ran as fast as he was capable of in this race.

Oh, okay...it didn't look as though he was even asked...i did think it was a little odd how wide he went...a sign of another layoff line perhaps?

[the_fat_man]

While the game is speed driven, it doesn't necessarily follow that it need be always considered from a speed perspective.

For example, all three winners today ran greenly. BB ran the straightest of the 3 in the stretch but he didn't exactly keep the most direct path for a horse that won in hand. And he was needlessly wide.

But the real interesting question is who picks out Klaravich's horses?

[philcski]

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

I'm not sure I understand with what you disagree with me regarding? I was only stating that Big Brown was geared down, whereas the 7f runners were running at the end of their respective races, thus making BB performance all the more impressive...

"geared down" doesn't necessarily mean he can go faster, then again he really doesn't need to to be competitive with the rest of the 3yo crop right now. What I liked most about the race was the only other two legitimate horses tried to hang with him on the front end and got destroyed.