3/1 (AQU): Stymie (Daaher v. Evening Attire)

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Daaher faced a faster pace early, he faced a second turn, and he packed it in like he did in the Donn.

To be honest, I did think that he was much too good for this field to lose but there was no way that I thought he was 1/5 better than them. This race tells me that the Donn was not the throwout race that all of the people that are smarter than me and told me I was an idiot was. People said the Donn was a throwout because Daaher was obviously a better horse than he showed and because I simply asked "how do you know that when he hadn't faced the conditions that the Donn presented", I was attacked as an idiot and basically an unknowledgeable race watcher.

am i missing the point? it sounds as tho, even tho you said daaher was not a good horse, you still picked him to win today, albeit not at the odds he went off at, and now that he lost (even tho you picked him) you were correct in saying he wasn't that good?

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Danzig

am i missing the point? it sounds as tho, even tho you said daaher was not a good horse, you still picked him to win today, albeit not at the odds he went off at, and now that he lost (even tho you picked him) you were correct in saying he wasn't that good?

Yes, you are missing the point. I do think Daaher is a good horse. I did think he would crush this field today. I haven't ever said he's not good. I only said that I didn't think he was AS good as the Cigar looked. I only said after the Donn, when our resident Gods were saying that the race was a throwout because Daaher was better than that and that something had to be wrong with him, that maybe the reason he got drubbed there was because of the conditions of the race and not the condition of the horse. What I think today showed was that he's not anywhere close to the same horse when the pace is faster and there is a second-turn, especially against stakes runners, as he is going one-turn on a moderate to soft pace. I had said then NOT to write the race off because Daaher had never done anything under that race's conditions to prove that the Donn was an abberration. If anything, today's race showed me that it wasn't.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Yes, you are missing the point. I do think Daaher is a good horse. I did think he would crush this field today. I haven't ever said he's not good. I only said that I didn't think he was AS good as the Cigar looked. I only said after the Donn, when our resident Gods were saying that the race was a throwout because Daaher was better than that and that something had to be wrong with him, that maybe the reason he got drubbed there was because of the conditions of the race and not the condition of the horse. What I think today showed was that he's not anywhere close to the same horse when the pace is faster and there is a second-turn, especially against stakes runners, as he is going one-turn on a moderate to soft pace. I had said then NOT to write the race off because Daaher had never done anything under that race's conditions to prove that the Donn was an abberration. If anything, today's race showed me that it wasn't.

CONGRATS!!! for being right about the Donn when the racing gods were wrong.

put on the dunce cap though for thinking Daaher was going to crush them today after the debacle he had in the Donn.

feel better now?

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

CONGRATS!!! for being right about the Donn when the racing gods were wrong.

put on the dunce cap though for thinking Daaher was going to crush them today after the debacle he had in the Donn.

feel better now?

Only if you do.

[blackthroatedwind]

So maybe I wasn't wrong after all.....and you are still a good guy?

What a relief. I was worried.

[King Glorious]

I'm still the outside of the box thinking, radical idea having idiot that doesn't have a clue. Hasn't changed in 21 years of watching these animals and hopefully, won't change in the next 21 years either.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I'm still the outside of the box thinking, radical idea having idiot that doesn't have a clue. Hasn't changed in 21 years of watching these animals and hopefully, won't change in the next 21 years either.

yeh really impressive.....

[Danzig]

will you sleep better now?

i guess now daaher will go back to a one turn mile?

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Danzig

will you sleep better now?

i guess now daaher will go back to a one turn mile?

Maybe I'm the one missing the point here because I don't see what yours is. I would have slept the same whether Daaher would have won by 20 and then gone on to break the world record in the Dubai World Cup by 50 or whether he would have lost by 25 today. So, if you don't mind, could you tell me what your point is?