Freshman Sires

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by philcski

here is the video, and you are wrong. there's nowhere he's offstride. it's close to physically impossible to work that fast unless the stride was perfect.

http://www.courier-journal.com/blogs...es-in-red.html

the horse was a bum. just like a lot of them at 2YO in training sales.

Of course he was cross-firing. Ask a trainer. Ask anyone else on here who knows what cross-firing is...

He was on his right lead up front, and his left lead behind. He never once switched behind like he should have.

I give up... I don't even know why I try.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Of course he was cross-firing. Ask a trainer. Ask anyone else on here who knows what cross-firing is...

He was on his right lead up front, and his left lead behind. He never once switched behind like he should have.

I give up... I don't even know why I try.

I just asked one, and also another who knows more in her pinky about horse conformation and physics than you would ever know. Both of them agreed with me,

If you supposedly knew this then why didn't you call up Coolmore and tell them before they got involved??? Oh yeah, because you're wrong.

[The Bid]

You could have saved them 15 million and some change if you would have told them you didnt like their horse

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by The Bid

You could have saved them 15 million and some change if you would have told them you didnt like their horse

Well, he was a beautiful mover up front, and worked fast, but I would steer clear of a horse that cross-fires all the way down the stretch or switches leads like crazy down the stretch.

[The Bid]

You dont expect a horse to be green whatsoever when you evaluate unraced 2yolds?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by The Bid

You dont expect a horse to be green whatsoever when you evaluate unraced 2yolds?

Novice!

[The Bid]

Pretty serious crowd in here today. Lot of information to absorb

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by The Bid

You dont expect a horse to be green whatsoever when you evaluate unraced 2yolds?

Some of it is can be a horse being green. However, I don't view it as green when the horse cross-fires all the way down the stretch.

I view it as either a lack of balance and athleticism or the horse is dealing with unsoundness of some kind when they do it the entire length of the stretch as it is uncomfortable for a balanced horse to cross-fire a long way. If you follow the horses that cross-fire all the way down the stretch from the sales to the races, even if they have a good work out and move nice up front, you will see why I came to this conclusion.

If they cross-fire a little way down the stretch, and then switch to the correct lead, I don't knock the horse off the list because I view it as being green if they move nice off the right lead.

If they switch back and forth multiple times down the stretch in the workout, they are often unsound and do the exact same thing in their races if they make it to the races.

If they don't switch to their right lead at all like they are supposed to, they often don't switch in their races if they make it to the races.

Many of the consignors work the **** out of these horses before the sales too, so most of the horses should know how to switch leads correctly.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by The Bid

You dont expect a horse to be green whatsoever when you evaluate unraced 2yolds?

What do you think about horses that cross-fire all the way down the stretch like the Green Monkey? Do you toss them or does it depend on everything else such as the x-rays and the like?

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

What do you think about horses that cross-fire all the way down the stretch like the Green Monkey? Do you toss them or does it depend on everything else such as the x-rays and the like?

never give up


I believe the Green Monkey had nothing to do with it..
meaning
it was just a couple of rich guys in a pissing match

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by philcski

I just asked one, and also another who knows more in her pinky about horse conformation and physics than you would ever know. Both of them agreed with me,

If you supposedly knew this then why didn't you call up Coolmore and tell them before they got involved??? Oh yeah, because you're wrong.

I'm not wrong. Ask The Bid or Cannon Shell. I'm sure they know.

Whoever you are talking to, does not know what they are talking about.

The horse is on one lead up front, and a different lead behind.

Why would I care about saving Coolmore any money?

[Payson Dave]

Thebby.......please move this to esoteric.....the entertainment value will go thru the roof....