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Old 02-26-2008, 12:53 AM
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I'm knocking on 30s' door... that depresses ME.
30's arent so bad. 40's has been a little rough...
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Old 02-26-2008, 12:57 AM
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If you are weighing TC races then how can you leave out Monarchos? I can't, and I couldn't stand the horse.
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Old 02-26-2008, 01:31 AM
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i'm surprised nobody mentioned awesome again. i know he might not have accomplished as much as a 3yo as touch gold, but c'mon.

dinard was a monster before getting hurt. his win over best pal and apollo was a great race.

did anyone list tiznow? not many horses debut as a 3yo and win HOY that same year.

fupeg, when on his game, would beat most of the names i've seen on this list. well, at least a lot of them, if not most.

indian charlie never got to prove how good he really was, but i feel he's definitely among the best on any of these lists. he kicked the crap out of some nice horses butt's in his limited time racing, including real quiet, artax and old trieste.

unbridled on his day was pretty damn nice.

king glorious was pretty awesome.
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Old 02-26-2008, 09:30 AM
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i'm surprised nobody mentioned awesome again. i know he might not have accomplished as much as a 3yo as touch gold, but c'mon.
did anyone list tiznow? not many horses debut as a 3yo and win HOY that same year.
unbridled on his day was pretty damn nice.
Awesome Again didn't win a single G1 as a 3yo, and won only one graded stakes race (the Jim Dandy). He was much better at 4.
I agree on Tiznow and Unbridled. They were both on my list.
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Old 02-26-2008, 09:57 AM
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Smarty Jones first 10 furlongs in the Belmont were fantastic. His last two furlongs have to be the most overrated in the history of the sport. The only reason he "showed so much heart" was cause Birdstone was running so damn slow. Imagine if you had a horse coming at the end just with solid closing fractions of 25.00 instead of 26.42. You then would have had that horse making up an extra ten lengths on Smarty in the stretch and it would have looked like they ran by him while he was standing still. Would anyone be talking about his heart then? I don't want to take anything away from the first 10 furlongs he ran in that race but this idea that he showed so much heart in the final two furlongs is nothing more than an optical illusion created by how slow Birdstone was also going.
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Old 02-26-2008, 10:05 AM
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I don't want to take anything away from the first 10 furlongs he ran in that race but this idea that he showed so much heart in the final two furlongs is nothing more than an optical illusion created by how slow Birdstone was also going.
You're absolutely right, good post. I would also add though that Smarty Jones' last two furlongs would have been stronger had he not had so much early pressure.
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Old 02-26-2008, 10:10 AM
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You're absolutely right, good post. I would also add though that Smarty Jones' last two furlongs would have been stronger had he not had so much early pressure.
That I don't doubt.
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Old 02-26-2008, 12:53 PM
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Awesome Again didn't win a single G1 as a 3yo, and won only one graded stakes race (the Jim Dandy). He was much better at 4.
I agree on Tiznow and Unbridled. They were both on my list.
they dont run grade 1's in canada?
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Old 02-26-2008, 12:56 PM
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they dont run grade 1's in canada?
The Queens Plate is a CDN bred restricted race, ungraded.

Trust me, I'd include Awesome Again if I could- but his career was at 4.
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Old 02-26-2008, 12:59 PM
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The Queens Plate is a CDN bred restricted race, ungraded.

Trust me, I'd include Awesome Again if I could- but his career was at 4.
holy cow, i never realized that!

still, he was better as a 3yo than a whole lot of the ones named in this thread. didnt he win the queen's plate in his 2nd or 3rd start?
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Old 02-26-2008, 04:45 AM
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30's arent so bad. 40's has been a little rough...
Right on the money...
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When you get to your 50's , the 30-40's all seems like easy street. Enjoy it while you can.

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30's arent so bad. 40's has been a little rough...
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