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Old 02-25-2008, 03:41 PM
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Official time will be 1:50.0.

:24.0; :47.3; 1:11.2; 1:36.1; 1:50.0


Outrider's pony tripped the teletimer... Mike Welsch on ATR now...
This means the times I got with my iPhone were off by 1/5, and my theory that the clock started when the gates opened is wrong.

Maybe if GP ran more races at two turns, the crew would be more aware of where to stand.
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Old 02-25-2008, 03:43 PM
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This means the times I got with my iPhone were off by 1/5, and my theory that the clock started when the gates opened is wrong.

Maybe if GP ran more races at two turns, the crew would be more aware of where to stand.

No, it means they're full of it. I will trust the time I heard which was very close to the revised time.
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Old 02-25-2008, 03:45 PM
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No, it means they're full of it.
Please elaborate. Not arguing, just not sure what you mean.

Also, Byk's ability to host a radio show and reply to posts at the same time is second to none.
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Old 02-25-2008, 03:57 PM
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Please elaborate. Not arguing, just not sure what you mean.

Also, Byk's ability to host a radio show and reply to posts at the same time is second to none.
There is a long and storied history at Gulfstream of incorrectly timing the races and not accurately correcting matters. I take nothing they say on this issue at face value and considering the esteem I have for the person who relayed the real time of the race I am absolutely certain his time is " more " correct.
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Old 02-25-2008, 04:00 PM
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There is a long and storied history at Gulfstream of incorrectly timing the races and not accurately correcting matters. I take nothing they say on this issue at face value and considering the esteem I have for the person who relayed the real time of the race I am absolutely certain his time is " more " correct.
I know this was a big problem with grass races there but I didn't realize it was also a problem on dirt too.
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Old 02-25-2008, 04:01 PM
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I know this was a big problem with grass races there but I didn't realize it was also a problem on dirt too.
I would agree with you overall.....it is a far bigger problem with grass races. And, it always has been.
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Old 02-26-2008, 10:00 AM
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according to an article on DRF:
Originally Posted Times:
1/4: 25.78
1/2: 49.27
3/4: 1:13.19
Mile: 1:38.81
Fin: 1:51.85

Adjusted times (according to Bernie Hettel, racing operations manager):
1/4: 24.03 (difference of 1.75)
1/2: 47.62 (1.65)
3/4: 1:11.52 (1.67)
Mile: 1:36.32 (2.49)
Fin: 1:50.07 (1.78)

If the pony did trip the teletimer, which is believable, why would the differences in the times vary from 1/4 pole to 1/4 pole? They should all then be off by the same amount.
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Old 02-26-2008, 11:03 AM
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This means the times I got with my iPhone were off by 1/5, and my theory that the clock started when the gates opened is wrong.

Maybe if GP ran more races at two turns, the crew would be more aware of where to stand.

the clock starts like 60 ft or yards in.. i forget. a couple of leaps into the race!
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Old 02-26-2008, 11:24 AM
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The time that was in the DRF chart is as close to accurate as we will get. Whatever time Bernie Hettel arrived at is of no interest to me whatsoever.
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Old 02-26-2008, 12:11 PM
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They should just pave over GP and build a mall.
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Old 02-26-2008, 12:17 PM
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They should just pave over GP and build a mall.

they are, sorta. just the parking lot. well i guess that was already paved over.
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Old 02-26-2008, 12:30 PM
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The time that was in the DRF chart is as close to accurate as we will get. Whatever time Bernie Hettel arrived at is of no interest to me whatsoever.
Unfortunately, the DRF now lists Bernie's times in the charts.
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Old 02-27-2008, 05:11 PM
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For those that haven't seen this, check out Steve Crist's latest Blog entry at drf.com. He talkes about the timing, but then includes an addendum from something Randy Moss, who actually does know how to time races, wrote.

It's very interesting and explains why Hettel's timing is inaccurate.
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Old 02-27-2008, 05:32 PM
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Good stuff.
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