Bernadini/the reason for my doubts

Originally Posted by Gander

I wouldnt go as far as annointing Bordonaro even top 3 sprinter status in the country at this point but he is no rat. Henny Hughes is easily number one, Silver Train and War Front are both better in my opinion. EVen Proud Tower Too could probably beat Bordonaro.

BTW, Proud Tower Too is out for the year, but anyway...I was just stating that Bordonaro by MANY analysts in the industry accounts was the #1 sprinter in the country going into the Bing Crosby.....I never liked the horse much, personally..

Everybody knows where I stand with Henny Hughes....

[GPK]

Joel, why is PTT out for the year? Was it his trip to DBX that sent him to the sidelines?

Originally Posted by GPK

Joel, why is PTT out for the year? Was it his trip to DBX that sent him to the sidelines?

I think I read where he had surgery to remove a chip from a knee that originated from a workout about 1-2 months ago, but don't quote me on that....anyone else know for sure?

I do know he is out for the year, though....

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

I think I read where he had surgery to remove a chip from a knee that originated from a workout about 1-2 months ago, but don't quote me on that....anyone else know for sure?

I do know he is out for the year, though....

Chip in the ankle. Nothing major but he is done for the year.

Originally Posted by boldruler

Chip in the ankle. Nothing major but he is done for the year.

Thanks for clearing that up...i knew it was a chip but couldn't find the story

the Dandy was a G2 event
some average horses have won this race
he did win the G1 Preakness
but that should have a big * by it
so who's he beaten?
with one other G3 win besides a maiden W
and the times were average
from a predigree stand-point, it just doesn't get any better
but I would like to see him really challenged
which you have to think will happen soon
bald people can't train, btw
you look at Baffert, Pletcher, even an older Lukas
all have full heads of hair

Originally Posted by BellamyRd.

the Dandy was a G2 event
some average horses have won this race
he did win the G1 Preakness
but that should have a big * by it
so who's he beaten?
with one other G3 win besides a maiden W
and the times were average
from a predigree stand-point, it just doesn't get any better
but I would like to see him really challenged
which you have to think will happen soon
bald people can't train, btw
you look at Baffert, Pletcher, even an older Lukas
all have full heads of hair

Please tell that to Charlie Whittingham.

I do not know enough about the trainer to make comment. But what I will comment on, is the fact that horses cannot talk. A trainer is so very important in being able to not only tell the level of fitness of a horse, and putting him in the appropriate races given current ability and fitness, but what kind of training will best suit the individual horse to get him to the desired level. If a horse shows vast unexpected improvement, how do we adjust the goals. If a horse shows great early promise and then tops out, how to rethink goals, and having enough respect and guts to tell the owners what you believe to be the truth about their million dollar investment that will no longer be able to take on the top level like once thought.

Think about humans in the top level of track. They all have trainers. And the top runners can tell the trainers when they are sore, what hurts, And they just dont feel good today, something aint right, im slipping badly on this surface, I need a friggin drink. Horses cannot talk.

This takes extraordinary people. The level of competition in the top tier is way too tough and fluid. Very talented horses pop out of nowhere. Good horses dont improve or dont want to run. I could screw up Bernardini. So could everyone else on this board.

I again think this is a case of the sage complex we have witnessed so often: taking an extraordinarily bred animal (which in itself is horribly inexact) that looks great moving and has a few extrordinary races, and proclaiming him the next great. Happens all the time and it is fun to write about.

[Buffymommy]

Now don't get me wrong. Bernardini is a good horse, but I have my reservations about him. Yes, he looked very impressive in his last two races, BUT didn't Sin Min look impressive in his Keenland romp? Didn't Bellamy Road look impressive in his romp as a three year old? There are more. AA looked impressive in a lot of races but you all are saying Bernardini is better than him too.

I guess that is why I am hesitant to get on this horse's bandwagon. Nothing to do with his trainer, owners, etc... Just want to see him go up against better competition before I title him "HOY" or even "Great".