Majestic Warrior

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I don't know that I would describe it as an " egregious " hole in my game, as unlike you I actually win despite my mediocre understanding of pedigree, but I certainly don't pretend to be an expert, also unlike you.

However, my good friend Tony Cobitz is an expert, and so I have turned to him on this important issue. In a nutshell.....he agrees with you from a pedigree standpoint and says that physically Majestic Warrior does not look like a sprinter. While his running style may prove a problem, as well as ten furlongs, he certainly feels this horse should get 9 furlongs.

Pardon me for going above you, but Tony has proven his worth at the racetrack for many years, to both myself and others, while I am still waiting, and hoping, for you to do that here. I haven't given up hope.

You know a lot more about pedigree's them BBB....I think it's always encouraging when a colt outruns his pedigree. An Indy winning early and short is encouraging no matter who the dam is..But that isn't to say he won't turn out actually what you guys think he will be.

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Majestic Warrior was entered in Saturday's Louisiana Derby drawing the nine hole with Gomez named. The son of A.P. Indy completed his major preparation with a half mile at Payson Park Sunday morning.

Reading between the lines, perhaps with blurred vision, the work "looks" very good, if not outstanding. The time given was 48.40 and it was a co-bullet with about a dozen or so working that distance. Only one other worker broke 50 seconds and a black type work is generally very good.

A more in depth analysis that calls for conclusion, and maybe an upgrade to outstanding is within reason. MW has been working steadily and a little longer each work with his last work 2/23 going six panels. Yesterday's half matches up with stablemate Duke Of Pearl and that one is entered also eligible later in the week. "Duke" is bred in the purple ( a half to Vision and Verse et. al.) and is quick in the mornings. Additionally "Duke" was entered blinkers ON and trainers usually work their horses in blinkers before running them in that equipment change as most jurisdictions require starter approval. Sophomore colts, especially those by Unbridled's Song can lay down some swift splits, first time hood and this work could be spot on.

By any measure MW faces a tough task Saturday with Pyro and Tale Of Ekati, two of a half dozen or so that can win the roses. Nevertheless in a year where several "big name" contenders have counterfeit ten panel pedigrees ( War Pass, El Gato Malo, etc.) MW remains, at least for now, one of the ones. BBB

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by bellsbendboy

Majestic Warrior was entered in Saturday's Louisiana Derby drawing the nine hole with Gomez named. The son of A.P. Indy completed his major preparation with a half mile at Payson Park Sunday morning.

Reading between the lines, perhaps with blurred vision, the work "looks" very good, if not outstanding. The time given was 48.40 and it was a co-bullet with about a dozen or so working that distance. Only one other worker broke 50 seconds and a black type work is generally very good.

A more in depth analysis that calls for conclusion, and maybe an upgrade to outstanding is within reason. MW has been working steadily and a little longer each work with his last work 2/23 going six panels. Yesterday's half matches up with stablemate Duke Of Pearl and that one is entered also eligible later in the week. "Duke" is bred in the purple ( a half to Vision and Verse et. al.) and is quick in the mornings. Additionally "Duke" was entered blinkers ON and trainers usually work their horses in blinkers before running them in that equipment change as most jurisdictions require starter approval. Sophomore colts, especially those by Unbridled's Song can lay down some swift splits, first time hood and this work could be spot on.

By any measure MW faces a tough task Saturday with Pyro and Tale Of Ekati, two of a half dozen or so that can win the roses. Nevertheless in a year where several "big name" contenders have counterfeit ten panel pedigrees ( War Pass, El Gato Malo, etc.) MW remains, at least for now, one of the ones. BBB

Good analysis. Do you know that a good number of works at Payson, PBD and Palm Meadows are clocked and reported by trainers or their staff? Not that it matters much but if you drill down as hard as you seem to do on works, it may be something to think about. Aside from frequency and spacing, it's pretty impossible to glean much from works unless you see them yourself and are an outstanding judge of physical appearance.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Good analysis. Do you know that a good number of works at Payson, PBD and Palm Meadows are clocked and reported by trainers or their staff? Not that it matters much but if you drill down as hard as you seem to do on works, it may be something to think about. Aside from frequency and spacing, it's pretty impossible to glean much from works unless you see them yourself and are an outstanding judge of physical appearance.

Good analysis? He wrote a dissertation about a phuckin' 4 furlong work that was published in the DRF. MW may turn out to be a very good horse but there is NO chance he wins the La Derby. NONE.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by philcski

Good analysis? He wrote a dissertation about a phuckin' 4 furlong work that was published in the DRF. MW may turn out to be a very good horse but there is NO chance he wins the La Derby. NONE.

A bit tongue in cheek. I'm still anxious to hear BBBs account of how MW hot-walked after the work.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

A bit tongue in cheek. I'm still anxious to hear BBBs account of how MW hot-walked after the work.

You caught Phil of guard......ya know, being that you're usually soooooooo serious.

[Payson Dave]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

... Aside from frequency and spacing, it's pretty impossible to glean much from works unless you see them yourself .....

so true....especially Payson works...

[blackthroatedwind]

I thought only one horse can win the Derby ( though I hadn't accounted for a dead heat ).

Has there ever been a dead heat among a half dozen ( or so ) horses?