why monba wont win the foy

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

And he was the favorite.

That was a good call Hooves.

thank you andrew .. that bad trainers hand gets another "ace"

[wac]

Is there any reason in the world that a horse would run as badly as monba did today? Is it possible to bleed thru Lasix? Didn't look like an injury but cannot believe that he finished last. I'd love to hear from someone that may have some meaningful insight.

[Danzig]

because he sucks? or was the slowest?

he got pinched the first turn, and never ran a lick after. he's not good enough-and against some in that field, that's a pretty bad indictment of his talent-or lack thereof.

[ninetoone]

nice call guys...

[ninetoone]

Originally Posted by ninetoone

nice call guys...

But nothing will ever top BTW's call of Cowtown Rat running last in the Derby last year

[wac]

I did see the bump in the 1st turn but didn't look that bad. I was just sitting in disbelief after the race as i was hoping monba and zhumor would run decent races. i started a thread on here about why all the hate on the 3yr old crop and after today i guess i kinda see what you guys are talking about. Man I hope like hell that the rest of the preps are better then this one.

[Danzig]

i think the first couple of finishers will be ok...monba needs to head back west, fla doesn't seem to be his bag. z humor shouldn't have run back this quickly, unless it was against the likes of what war pass faced today. considering how far back court vision was early, i don't know that you could really toss him-depending on where he shows up next.

but i do think the FOY separated a good bit of the chaff out of the wheat today. everyone outside the top three needs to lower their expectations for next time...

[jms62]

Originally Posted by wac

Is there any reason in the world that a horse would run as badly as monba did today? Is it possible to bleed thru Lasix? Didn't look like an injury but cannot believe that he finished last. I'd love to hear from someone that may have some meaningful insight.

Maybe it is the crazy california surfaces or that hte california horses are grossly overrated this year. I admit I was a huge sucker on this horse ,it was the worstt performance of this Derby season by a so called contender.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Good call

maybe it is easier to pick which ones won't run good, than who will win races in this group.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

thank you andrew .. that bad trainers hand gets another "ace"

He's a very good trainer....who happens to have a dearth of good 3YOs. You would be kidding yourself if you didn't think every trainer in the game didn't have one eye on the rearview mirror looking for Todd at all times.

Though, most of the time he is looking at them in his rearview mirror. It's nice to see some others getting a chance to shine....but Todd will be a factor in big races this year and many years to come.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

He's a very good trainer....who happens to have a dearth of good 3YOs. You would be kidding yourself if you didn't think every trainer in the game didn't have one eye on the rearview mirror looking for Todd at all times.

Though, most of the time he is looking at them in his rearview mirror. It's nice to see some others getting a chance to shine....but Todd will be a factor in big races this year and many years to come.

On the other side of the coin, Zito has such a ridiculously stacked hand. If the Derby was run tomorrow he might actually have 3 of the top 4 betting choices... and I'm not betting against him.