2/24 (GP): Fountain of Youth (Gr. II)

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by pick4

What has Court Vision done wrong thus far? The only thing I can see is Mott entered him in a slow paced Remsen and the jock managed to get him bottled up until the 1/8 pole. He ran a much better race than the 76 BSF said he did.

Since this is his first race back he could be a little short. Plus his running style might not be right for the Gulstream Park track. There seems to be enough speed horses in the field to run a legitimate pace. If the track is fair he might be able a serious player. He'll be on my multis and if he's 4-1 or higher I'll place a win bet on him.

That's for sure. I count six horses that should be on or near the lead, and Pletcher appears to be putting some speed into Monba as well. I think the race sets up well for a horse like Court Vision, provided he doesn't drop too far out of it. Then again, I could see half the field winning this race.

[pick4]

The tricky thing about this race in terms of wagering is this race is only a prep race for Court Vision. Winning the race might not be the goal for the connections.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by pick4

The tricky thing about this race in terms of wagering is this race is only a prep race for Court Vision. Winning the race might not be the goal for the connections.

And this is what I don't get... why wouldn't the connections want their goal to be a win for their horse in a prep? Is it some sort of jinx to have your horse actually WIN the race that it's entered into? Another thing too is that this race is a prep for most of them entered, not just Court Vision...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

And this is what I don't get... why wouldn't the connections want their goal to be a win for their horse in a prep? Is it some sort of jinx to have your horse actually WIN the race that it's entered into? Another thing too is that this race is a prep for most of them entered, not just Court Vision...

excellent point!

premeditated excuse perhaps???

[robfla]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

why wouldn't the connections want their goal to be a win for their horse in a prep? Is it some sort of jinx .

maybe to build a foundation for a race that has a longer distance, is more prestigious, and has bigger purse - but thats too obvious

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by robfla

maybe to build a foundation for a race that has a longer distance, is more prestigious, and has bigger purse - but thats too obvious

So, are you saying that the winner of the prep race doesn't gain that same foundation?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

So, are you saying that the winner of the prep race doesn't gain that same foundation?

The winner may need the graded earnings to get in so may be cranked up to peak for this effort to assure they get the earnings. Court Vision already has the earnings so they can take it easier with him and work towards a peak performance on Derby Day. Personally I think Court Vision will lose because he's too slow, not because he isn't cranked up but the more excuses I can give for the horse the more likely people are to continue burning money on him this year.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

The winner may need the graded earnings to get in so may be cranked up to peak for this effort to assure they get the earnings. Court Vision already has the earnings so they can take it easier with him and work towards a peak performance on Derby Day. Personally I think Court Vision will lose because he's too slow, not because he isn't cranked up but the more excuses I can give for the horse the more likely people are to continue burning money on him this year.

That will be me, probably. LOL

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

So, are you saying that the winner of the prep race doesn't gain that same foundation?

Building the foundation is part of it, but the prep race is more about not being 100% cranked and shooting your wad before the main goal. The ideal scenario in my opinion for a prep is a real easy win, where you get some foundation and the check, without hurting the muscles. Figuring out preps/intent is tricky.

[pick4]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

And this is what I don't get... why wouldn't the connections want their goal to be a win for their horse in a prep? Is it some sort of jinx to have your horse actually WIN the race that it's entered into? Another thing too is that this race is a prep for most of them entered, not just Court Vision...

Obviously I'm not privy to the thoughts of the trainer and owner.What I meant is do you want this horse to run a race like Read The Footnotes and Second of June in the 04 FOY? It was a race that probably had adverse effects on each horse. I'm guessing that they just want to put a race into the horse and if they win that's great. However the ultimate goal being that he runs well and comes out of the race in good shape.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by pick4

What I meant is do you want this horse to run a race like Read The Footnotes and Second of June in the 04 FOY?

Or like Street Sense and Any Given Saturday last year at Tamp....oh wait, nevermind.

[pick4]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Or like Street Sense and Any Given Saturday last year at Tamp....oh wait, nevermind.

You might be correct.

[IrishofNDMan]

I'm going to go with Cool Coal Man, might be my only bet of the day.