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Old 02-21-2008, 05:17 PM
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Hughes, Gooden to da bulls for Ben Wallace and Nerdziac.

Horrible trade.
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Old 02-21-2008, 05:24 PM
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Hughes, Gooden to da bulls for Ben Wallace and Nerdziac.

Horrible trade.
The Bulls actually found someone to take Wallace?
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Old 02-21-2008, 05:26 PM
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The Bulls actually found someone to take Wallace?
Yeah. They should have a parade for pulling that off.
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Old 02-21-2008, 05:29 PM
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Yeah. They should have a parade for pulling that off.
they didn't need anyone in return
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Old 02-21-2008, 05:37 PM
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This is a great trade for the Cavs. They get some toughness on the inside with the addition of Wallace and a above average 3 point shooter with Wally. Now they have Gibson and Wally on the perimeter. This leaves James with a wide open lane. Iggy will still get his and Wallace gives them a rebounding and defensive force. They dont loose much in Hughes--12.3 and 3.6 per game and Gooden 11.3 and 8.3. This puts the Cavs right up there behind the Celtics and Pistons. Good good good trade for the Cavs.
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This is a great trade for the Cavs. They get some toughness on the inside with the addition of Wallace and a above average 3 point shooter with Wally. Now they have Gibson and Wally on the perimeter. This leaves James with a wide open lane. Iggy will still get his and Wallace gives them a rebounding and defensive force. They dont loose much in Hughes--12.3 and 3.6 per game and Gooden 11.3 and 8.3. This puts the Cavs right up there behind the Celtics and Pistons. Good good good trade for the Cavs.
Isn't this exactly where they were without making this deal? I don't get this trade at all. Ben Wallace is extremely overrated in my opinion. Wally Z can't play a lick of defense. Delonte West has gone way down since his Boston days. He couldn't even beat out Earl Watson for a starting spot. The question that I think they have to ask themselves is does this make them the best team in the East? I don't think the answer is yes. The interesting thing is that this year, they were the same Cavs that had beaten Detroit last year and were 2-1 against the Celtics this year. I would have liked a healthy Cavs team's chances against Detroit again this year and they have matched up very well with the Celtics. I don't think major moves like this were the right thing for them and getting Wallace's contract is going to hurt.
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Old 02-22-2008, 12:39 PM
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Isn't this exactly where they were without making this deal? I don't get this trade at all. Ben Wallace is extremely overrated in my opinion. Wally Z can't play a lick of defense. Delonte West has gone way down since his Boston days. He couldn't even beat out Earl Watson for a starting spot. The question that I think they have to ask themselves is does this make them the best team in the East? I don't think the answer is yes. The interesting thing is that this year, they were the same Cavs that had beaten Detroit last year and were 2-1 against the Celtics this year. I would have liked a healthy Cavs team's chances against Detroit again this year and they have matched up very well with the Celtics. I don't think major moves like this were the right thing for them and getting Wallace's contract is going to hurt.


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Isn't this exactly where they were without making this deal? I don't get this trade at all. Ben Wallace is extremely overrated in my opinion. Wally Z can't play a lick of defense. Delonte West has gone way down since his Boston days. He couldn't even beat out Earl Watson for a starting spot. The question that I think they have to ask themselves is does this make them the best team in the East? I don't think the answer is yes. The interesting thing is that this year, they were the same Cavs that had beaten Detroit last year and were 2-1 against the Celtics this year. I would have liked a healthy Cavs team's chances against Detroit again this year and they have matched up very well with the Celtics. I don't think major moves like this were the right thing for them and getting Wallace's contract is going to hurt.
Ben Wallace is overrated in what facet of the game? Defense or rebounding? Who thinks he can do more than that? With a 4 man rotation of him, Ilgaugaskas, Anderson V and Smith, he wont have to play big minutes and can go hard all the time. Wally Z is there strictly as a shooter which is something they needed. Delonte played himself into the dog house in Seattle but can play point and is a good 3 point shooter with a small contract that was basically a throw in. Everybody is forgetting Joe Smith. He is a big man that can score and is a better all around player than Gooden. Are you guys forgetting that they beat Detroit pretty much without Hughes? Are you forgetting that Hughes contract is just as outrageous as Wallaces except Wallace fits his role better than Hughes did in his? Just because they went to the Finals last year doesnt mean they didnt need to adjust. They were screwed by the cap before the trade and now they are screwed still but have better players with defined roles. I dont know how that makes this a bad deal for Cleveland. What I dont understand is Chicago's thinking.
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Fools.


The overall flavor will be devastating to this pop stand Eastern Conf.

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Well we arent compaing the Eastern Conference to the Western Conference. Most people know the Western Conference is head and shoulders above the East. I believe that Phoenix is 21-2 against the Eastern Conference this year. The big stat is the Lakers are 20-8 against the West and 17-9 against the East.
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