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Old 02-21-2008, 11:51 AM
freddymo freddymo is offline
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He's already won around two turns and already won in a race where the pace scenario played completely against him. You have to be a closer to win in those circumstances, not a plodder like Majestic Warrior. Barring an unforeseen infusion of speed horses into the Derby picture this year there is no chance of enough of a pace meltdown for a plodder to crack the superfecta even if that plodder turns out to like 10 furlongs which is a big question mark.
The colt has had a total of 3 starts with 1 of them health compromised. You are drawing a lot of conclusions from so little data. His second dam was a fairly acomplished router and he sure does have a great trainer in BILLY(for you BBB)..
I worry more about him not having a couple more races in him then if he plods or if he develops a little more turn of foot. He is 6 months older lets see what 08 brings before we label him Saarland 2 the sequel
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Old 02-21-2008, 11:58 AM
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The colt has had a total of 3 starts with 1 of them health compromised. You are drawing a lot of conclusions from so little data. His second dam was a fairly acomplished router and he sure does have a great trainer in BILLY(for you BBB)..
I worry more about him not having a couple more races in him then if he plods or if he develops a little more turn of foot. He is 6 months older lets see what 08 brings before we label him Saarland 2 the sequel
By no means do I think there is no chance the horse will develop into a legit Derby horse. I just think there are a lot of reasons to think he won't. Considering he looks like the poor man's version of Circular Quay at this point though I find the buzz around him to be puzzling.
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Old 02-21-2008, 02:00 PM
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His second dam was a fairly acomplished router
Spinning Round was A LOT like her daughter Dream Supreme.. both had their finest moments going 7F...
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Old 02-22-2008, 09:32 AM
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what about Ashland?
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Old 02-23-2008, 08:57 PM
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With the many misgivings, this thread, regarding MAJESTIC WARRIOR and his preferred distance, (more than a few suggested, foolishly, that he is a sprinter because his dam was ?). The AP Indy colt handled six furlongs this morning.

As we posted, this would be a very important work and we cannot recall a faster Payson move. By any measure, six panels at this deep training center is not a frequent occurence. Nomatter Pillow Pants passes a big hurdle and is very live having one of a half dozen or so.

BBB
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Old 02-23-2008, 09:16 PM
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With the many misgivings, this thread, regarding MAJESTIC WARRIOR and his preferred distance, (more than a few suggested, foolishly, that he is a sprinter because his dam was ?). The AP Indy colt handled six furlongs this morning.

As we posted, this would be a very important work and we cannot recall a faster Payson move. By any measure, six panels at this deep training center is not a frequent occurence. Nomatter Pillow Pants passes a big hurdle and is very live having one of a half dozen or so.

BBB

I love the " we " sh it. I mean, honestly, you really have to respect the pretentiousness.

I realize you are just taking the opposite opinion of the smart posters on this site in hopes that one day you, too, can post something smart, but why exactly, and I know you won't answer because you only take cheap shots and never engage in actual dialogue, is it foolish to suggest that he is a sprinter because his dam was....especially in light of the fact that he emulates her running style on the racetrack?
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Old 02-23-2008, 09:44 PM
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Thanks for answering BBB. Appreciate your time.
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Old 02-24-2008, 11:24 AM
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BTW

Majestic Warrior is by A P Indy and inbred to both Secretariat and Buckpasser three of the preemininent stamina influences in the stud book. Horses get their class from their dams and generally emulate their sire with regards to surface, style and distance and precocity.

Predicting that MW is a sprinter is an opinion based on flawed logic.

The third dam was a router, the second dam won the Alciabades. Dream Supreme won three graded stakes at seven furlongs.

You should get a book or two on pedigree, it is an egregious hole in your game. BBB
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