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Old 07-31-2006, 04:07 PM
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Nope, I wouldn't consider him great if he was injured right now. That is why I said it in my post above. Just like I don't consider Barbaro and Afleet Alex one of the greatest. I don't even consider GZ to be one of the greatest because, although he was very brillant, he didn't run often enough. If Bernardini is not injured, this is going to be one of the greatest horses ever.

I am usually not one to say "I told you so". You should know that as of now because I have been chatting with you for a long time, and we frequently agree on many issues. I just want everyone to see this horse for what he really is, and to enjoy him while he is here. We don't know when there will be another one like him. Just enjoy him.

I am in total awe of him. Like I said, he is the first horse that I have ever seen race live who left me totally speechless after he won. It was the fact that Javier had so much horse under him and he never even asked him to go. He just loped under the wire. We will probably see what he is really made of in the Travers, and if we do, it is going to be a real show. After taking about a minute to compose myself after watching the Jim Dandy, all I could manage to do was to stare at the TV screen and say, "He is here." In fact, the whole OTB was silent for a few moments after everyone watched what Bernardini did to the field. It wasn't who he beat. It was how he did it.
Jessica, you have said this about so many other horses... and it IS about who he beat. He is the best 3 year old colt left out of his crop... let's wait to see how he does against the older horses first.
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Old 07-31-2006, 04:17 PM
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Jessica, you have said this about so many other horses... and it IS about who he beat. He is the best 3 year old colt left out of his crop... let's wait to see how he does against the older horses first.
The only ones who I have said were potentially superhorses were the ones that mwindu pointed out in the posts above.

I was specifically talking about the Jim Dandy when I mentioned that it wasn't who he beat because he didn't beat anyone except for maybe MB (a horse that we still don't know about because he may not have liked the slop; another point is that Sunriver also hates the slop). It was the way that he beat them. It will be about "who he beats" later on in the year when he is actually running against true grade I horses. Right now, he can't help who he is facing. He did what he was supposed to this weekend...and that was to run them into the ground. He by far exceeded my expectations.
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Old 07-31-2006, 04:23 PM
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The only ones who I have said were potentially superhorses were the ones that mwindu pointed out in the posts above.

I was specifically talking about the Jim Dandy when I mentioned that it wasn't who he beat because he didn't beat anyone except for maybe MB (a horse that we still don't know about because he may not have liked the slop; another point is that Sunriver also hates the slop). It was the way that he beat them. It will be about "who he beats" later on in the year when he is actually running against true grade I horses. Right now, he can't help who he is facing. He did what he was supposed to this weekend...and that was to run them into the ground. He by far exceeded my expectations.
I'm not disappointed in the horse at all... I'm disappointed in the way that you are proclaiming him the next "great" one. BTW, Sunriver was injured in the Jim Dandy, so it's hard to tell whether or not it was the slop or the injury that caused his poor performance.
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Old 07-31-2006, 04:25 PM
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Cajun, I hadn't heard that. What's the word?
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Old 07-31-2006, 04:27 PM
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Cajun, I hadn't heard that. What's the word?
Sunriver injures ankle in Jim Dandy Stakes

Aaron and Marie Jones's Grade 2 winner Sunriver, a full brother to two-time champion female Ashado, injured an ankle in the Jim Dandy Stakes (G1) on Saturday at Saratoga Race Course, trainer Todd Pletcher said Monday.
"It looks like he wrenched his right hind ankle," Pletcher said. "There was some heat and inflammation in it [on Sunday] and it's improved today. We will probably do some radiographs on it [on Tuesday] and see what's going on."

Sunriver finished last of six, 18 3/4 lengths behind Bernardini. Pletcher said Sunriver would probably not race over a sloppy track again after the Jim Dandy effort marked his second unplaced finish over a sloppy surface. The three-year-old Saint Ballado colt also will likely miss the Travers Stakes (G1) on August 26 at Saratoga.

Sunriver won the Peter Pan Stakes (G2) on May 20 at Belmont Park before finishing third in the Belmont Stakes (G1) on June 10. The Jim Dandy marked his first start since that effort.
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Old 07-31-2006, 04:41 PM
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Sunriver injures ankle in Jim Dandy Stakes
Thanks for the info!
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Old 07-31-2006, 04:37 PM
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I'm not disappointed in the horse at all... I'm disappointed in the way that you are proclaiming him the next "great" one. BTW, Sunriver was injured in the Jim Dandy, so it's hard to tell whether or not it was the slop or the injury that caused his poor performance.
Well, I can't help knowing what the horse is, and I also can't help wanting to share it with everyone else that loves horse racing. I can't help it that he is one of the most talented horses that I have ever seen, and that he wins and wins for fun, while running incredible times (preakness), winning by open lengths under a strangle hold (jim dandy), winning by open lengths without a crop (withers), and winning on and off the lead. Maybe he will get beat by the older horses later on this year, but I highly doubt it. If he does or doesn't, he will run all comers into the ground as a four year old if he is not injured.
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Old 07-31-2006, 06:17 PM
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Well, I can't help knowing what the horse is, and I also can't help wanting to share it with everyone else that loves horse racing. I can't help it that he is one of the most talented horses that I have ever seen, and that he wins and wins for fun, while running incredible times (preakness), winning by open lengths under a strangle hold (jim dandy), winning by open lengths without a crop (withers), and winning on and off the lead. Maybe he will get beat by the older horses later on this year, but I highly doubt it. If he does or doesn't, he will run all comers into the ground as a four year old if he is not injured.
Medaglio D'oro did pretty much the same thing in the Jim Dandy...
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Old 07-31-2006, 07:32 PM
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was that a stranglehold on saturday? look, he won easy...but still.

and no way of knowing how he'll fare against older. all this talk about the bBd, and even HE lost against older. c'mon guys. many say medaglia d'oro was special, the best of his crop, and he couldn't even beat volponi. flower alley, invasor and lava man are no volponi!!!!
let's give the unearned hyperbole a rest already. two good races. TWO. that's not hall of fame material.
now, let him win the travers and the bcc. then i'll be a believer, because like they say seeing is believing. conjecture isn't.



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Old 07-31-2006, 08:18 PM
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Castellano isn't as lucky as Albertrani is to have that horse. His training job with Songster today was absolutely shameful.
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