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Old 02-15-2008, 06:02 PM
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when you started this thread, you asked for opinions.

you brought up cali horses above, what about native diver?
I asked for people to give them opinions on what their criteria would be to make the hall of fame.

What about Native Diver? I don't understand the question. If you are asking me was he a good horse, of course. If you are asking me would he make my hall of fame, I'd have to look and see if he meets my criteria.
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Old 02-15-2008, 06:06 PM
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I asked for people to give them opinions on what their criteria would be to make the hall of fame.

What about Native Diver? I don't understand the question. If you are asking me was he a good horse, of course. If you are asking me would he make my hall of fame, I'd have to look and see if he meets my criteria.
i was under the impression that you felt a cali horse should get no consideration if he raced only on the west coast. it's my belief that the legendary native diver would be out of the hall, based on your qualifications.

i think it would be nearly impossible to make a hard and fast set of rules of what the requirements for inclusion should be. maybe a good horse is like porn, you'll know it when you see it...
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Old 02-15-2008, 06:42 PM
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i was under the impression that you felt a cali horse should get no consideration if he raced only on the west coast. it's my belief that the legendary native diver would be out of the hall, based on your qualifications.

i think it would be nearly impossible to make a hard and fast set of rules of what the requirements for inclusion should be. maybe a good horse is like porn, you'll know it when you see it...
A horse that races only in Cali will get less consideration than one that travels and proves himself out of his home area. I'm a Cali guy and I used to think that the racing here on a day in, day out basis was the best in the nation. But it's hard to get a good gauge on a horse that just beats up on the same horses over and over. As good as Lava Man was, he left a lot on the table as far as proving himself, IMO.

The requirements that I have would leave a lot of good horses out. Just look at my own list of the best I've seen. The only one of those horses that would make it is Go for Wand. That's the point. To stop letting just any horse that was good in. It's to distinguish the absolute best from the really good.
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Old 02-15-2008, 09:11 PM
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Just look at my own list of the best I've seen. The only one of those horses that would make it is Go for Wand.
She is the only one who should make it into any Hall of Fame from your list. Well maybe Smarty Jones can get in the Philly Park HoF.
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Old 02-15-2008, 09:15 PM
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She is the only one who should make it into any Hall of Fame from your list. Well maybe Smarty Jones can get in the Philly Park HoF.
Is that on Street Road, right off 95 ?
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