Clemens: BigFATLIar

Originally Posted by MaTH716

This is all in a fantasy world. These are baseball players we are talking about. They get paid millions of dollars to play a damn game! The Mitchell report and these hearings got nothing accomplished. It's all perception, the majority of people think that Bonds and Clemens took steroids. But has it been proved? OJ was found innocent, and the perception is that he is guilty. People are going to believe what they want. What about everyone else that admitted that they took steroids? Last time I checked nothing has happened. All I was saying is that I believe that there are plenty of other major issues that congressman could tackle if they wanted to. Cheating in baseball is the biggest crisis in the country, are they going to go after corked bats and spit balls next? Is Gaylord Perry even still alive to recieve a subpoena? As far as the children go, Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds should be the biggest problem I have to protect my children from, instead of some of the scum / maniacs out there. This whole process has been nothing more than political grandstanding and a waste of taxpayers money.

Gaylord Perry was dealing with federally prohibited drugs?

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Originally Posted by pgardn

Gaylord Perry was dealing with federally prohibited drugs?

Yeah,the problem really is just a lack of acceptance that these 2 substances(STEROIDS,HGH) are,for most people, illegal.You better have a prescription from a doctor that has found a legit reason to prescribe them to you.The reason people have no respect for that is because they let these guys get away without being punished.I mean these guys are doing the equivalent of simply stealing money from people.When you cheat to gain a physical advantage over the athletes you have to beat,then it's no different from stealing money from those other players.I guess people don't compute it that way,but it is true.Now,if you're wondering why it's in congress,well I think the better question is why isn't it in the courts? This is simple fraud,and just because they look tame to you,or you like them,doesn't mean they didn't commit fraud.There is simply too many people in this country that have no ethics,and that's why you see so damn little value in exposing people with the same lousy ethics.I would agree with you if it was just about somebody trying to get buff,but this is about people cheating to gain a financial/professional advantage.I'll say it again.It's no different than stealing from a department store.The only difference is they broke the law to get the tools(chemicals) in the 1st place.Cheating,and selfishnous(and the tolerance of it ) need to be paid attention to.If you don't have morals in a society,then it's gunna deteriorate.If I thought they were just hurting themselves,then I would agree with you,but this is about the deterioration of a society's morals.They knew you wouldn't care if they cheated.That's why they took the chance in the 1st place.